the dead

[Incidents Happen]

Im trying to find a trippy-jerry garcia type of sound- i have a wah-wah pedal, and that sounds pretty cool, but if i want a grateful dead- kinda sound on my guitar and comin out of my amp, what should i buy?

[John O'Carroll]

Not sure what to recommend. I've read a number of times Jerry used Fender Twin Reverb amps, so some kind of effects device(s) was used. Try doing a web search and see what you come up with. A multi-effects pedal may help you pinpoint the sound(s) you're looking for. In the meantime, since you're such a Dead fan ( great to know some of you youngsters are into the Dead ), check this website for many Dead tabs.

http://www.rukind.com/

[Incidents Happen]

yeah man i go there every day. i go to
http://www.cosmic-kitchen.com too.

yeah what i have in mind right now is a Twin Reverb and either an American Strat or a PRS Standard 24

i'd have to save up alot of money from my job to get it, but i could do it.

[John O'Carroll]

For your amp, look into getting a used, non-master volume Twin Reverb from the 60' thru the early 70's ( "blackface" thru '67, "silverface" '68 thru the 70's). A master volume without the pull-out boost feature would be OK also. The newer re-issue '65 Twins are not the same animal ( circuit board vs. point to point wiring among other things ). The '70's silverfaces would probably fall more into your price range ( less $$$ than a new reissue) and would be a great buy. It may need a maintenance tuneup, ( cap job, retube and re-bias ) but in the long run would prove a greater value than a new reissue - and it will last longer - they were built like tanks.

[Incidents Happen]

well at music123 there is a '65 Deluxe Reverb...

how about a Cyber-Twin? would that be good?

[John O'Carroll]

The Cyber Twin is a solid state modeling amp. Versatile, expensive but it's not a tube amp.
The '65 Deluxe Reverb is a reissue ( 22 watts, one 12" speaker ) that can be cranked to get a nice smooth tube overdrive and can be used for smaller live venues.

There is a series of reissue '65 (blackface) Fender amps: Deluxe Reverb, Twin Reverb (85 watts, two 12" speakers), Super Reverb ( 40 watts, 4-10' speakers). The reason they were reissued is that the original amps are prized by guitarists. The reissues are pretty good amps, the originals ( blackface or later silverface ) are better. I have a '74 Super Reverb I bought new in ...1974 ! I used Twins many times in rehearsal studios through the years. I've tried the reissue Super and now use a reissue Twin at my current rehearsal place; they're nice amps but the originals sound better to me. If you really want a Twin, take your time and find a used Twin - it will be well worth your money. The reissues will not hold their value over time as the originals have (point to point wired amps can be easily repaired; circuit boards are usually tossed). Just bear in mind the Twin stays clean almost dimed and is VERY loud. Also, there is a "Twin" amp (AKA the Evil Twin) that is not the same as the Twin Reverb.

[Incidents Happen]

hm....

what makes tube amps better than solid state

[Lordathestrings]

Originally posted by Incidents Happen
hm....

what makes tube amps better than solid state AmpTone (http://www.amptone.com/index.html) and Geofex (http://www.geofex.com/tubeampfaq/taffram.htm) explain the difference, and Legendary Tones (http://www.legendarytones.com/) lets you hear it!

[John O'Carroll]

Lots of good info there Lord.

[Lordathestrings]

Originally posted by John O'Carroll
Lots of good info there Lord. Thanks to educatedfilm for the Geofex link!

[Incidents Happen]

hm...

i'll wait a while and buy one in a few months...

[templd50]

hey you just need an auto-wha. Jerry-in-a-box!!!!

[Incidents Happen]

yeah, an envelope filter