ooooh, LIFE WITHOUT BIULDINGS!!!!! Listen to em...

[educatedfilm]

Right, I'll probably get into trouble for this.. So I'll delete this in a few days...
http://www.audiogalaxy.com/list/searches.php?SID=e2811b097d0bc228b96c1c6ec81639fd&searchType=0&searchStr=life+without+buildings
Listen to "NEW TOWN", "PS Exclusive" and "JUNO"... I'm all excited cos they're one of my faviourite new bands, and usualy nobody ever hears em, so end up looking like a rambling fool (no soo far from the truth).. those songs are the easiest to enjoy at first, the others are more acquired, her voice gets irratating after a while, but then you begin to like, a bit rob plant in that respect...

The giutar parts are very simple, and almost child like, the music is very melodic in general.. but it's the vocals that do it, the strange child like sound, that conjurses up words that throw you about (I mean it's difficult to follow what she is talking about), and sometimes she throws in some serious questions that maybe even gets a little philisophical... I would say New town is probably one of the best love songs i've heard...
Definetly worht a listen... please have a listen, and give me some honest feed back, but dont just say "it sucked", tell me why you think what you do... BUT FOR THE LOVE OF GOD HURRY!!!!!

[educatedfilm]

I've just relized how clever the front cover of "love trinity" is...
http://www.deadrelativist.com/lifewithoutbuildings/love_t.gif
Those rings that look like they've been drawn by a three year old... I Think they're the first/second formants for human voice, which conincidently follows the features of the womans face (lead singer i think) pretty cool eh?... better than some of the stuff I saw at the tate gallery..
<<well, it certainly more stimulating than a front cover which is a black and white photo of some chubby guitarist with long hair in leather (looking like one of the guys out of slayer) with a les paul, and church on the top off a hill in the distant background, oh yeah and motorbike next to him heheheheh ... lol>>

[Edited by educatedfilm on 02-12-2002 at 06:52 PM]

[educatedfilm]

any one bothered to listen?
oh well, you can take a horse to water, but you cant make it drink....

[Christoph]

Well, I went to the trouble of downloading "New Town". (heh, I kinda felt sorry for you, cause nobody else had posted . . . )

What can I say . . . I'm certainly glad I didn't go to the trouble of downloading more. This has gotta be one of the worst things I've ever heard. (it's even worse than Nivana, hehehe) How this song could be over 6 minutes long boggles my mind. It's the same old cliche alternative rhythm with a maddeningly repetitive guitar and bass going over and over. I don't know what those vocals were supposed to be, or if they were even supposed to be vocals, but they were terrible. It was like she was trying to sing but couldn't quite pull it off and ended up with a hodge-podge of repeating noises.

Anyway, there you have it. (heh . . . you asked)

[educatedfilm]

fair enough, did you listen to the lyrics though? (they are pretty difficult to discern)
I just thought you know, poeple might like something that was something that needed listening to, to get, something with depth and charecter... the reason i like this is because the melody is very simple and honest, and there's concepts in there (as opposed to 3 minutes of whinging about relationships)... um she can sing, like on 14days, but on this track she doesnt, it kinda verges on singing, but not quite... yeah the giutar is very simple (as i said before), but for me it works... the seems fond of harmonics on other tracks though... I wouldn't call it cliche cos i haven't heard stuff that uses that type of playing (not that simplified anyway)...
hmmm, looks like i was wrong... then again just might not be your thing...
thanks for you time though :)...

[Christoph]

No, it's definitely not my thing. It might be someone else's thing, but it's not mine. I like my music a little more complex (ya know, music that you have to listen to a few times for it to grow on you)

I meant the drum rhythm. It's a slightly overused 90's alternative rhythm. I called it cliche because I've heard it a million times. (if you want to hear some original rhythms, check out Sevendust. Those guys can do more stuff with a 4/4 than you could imagine)

[educatedfilm]

I have heard some sevendust stuff it ok (pretty good)... I do listen to like at the drive in, tool, primus, swerve driver, primal scream, (and other more comlicated) stuff, but i really cant abide (this is purely my oppinion) bands like hoobstank, nickel back, linkin park (all PRS bands)... stuff wich is really thin on top, and tries to be as rock as possible whilst coming danerously close to pop.. :)
some times you listen to stuff like this cos it's difficult to follow when you start, but then it really grows on you, and the lyrics are pretty clever at points... it kinda stops you from getting that feeling of your brain cells getting more and more lonely..
Have you listened to it again? (have you figured out the rough ball park of the meaning of the song? I say rough ball park, cos even i haven't figured out exactly what it's about)
Thanks again for yer time christoph :), better than no one saying anything..

[Edited by educatedfilm on 02-15-2002 at 12:36 PM]

[Christoph]

I'll agree with you on Linkin Park. Definitely "thin on top" . . . just a bunch of white suburban boys whining about how much everything "sucks". Gimme a break . . .

What's PRS?

[Raskolnikov]

Paul Reed Smith.

Carlos Santana, Larry LaLonde (Primus), Mike from Incubus, and lots of other people play them.

As well as a lot of nu-metal bands.

[Christoph]

Uh . . . ok. I don't quite see what that has to do with anything though. Care to enlighten me, Ed?

[educatedfilm]

hmm, it's nothing to do with the giutar it self.. but it seems to be a common factor, and it kinda embodies that childish thinking, "as soon as i get some money I'm gonna get me a kick ass PRS" regardless of wether there's better giutars (for the same MASSIVELY INFLATED PRICE!!! i know they've got mahogeny bodies an' all, but that giutar is sooo over hyped it aint true..) ... just keep an eye out, and watch what giutars the crap bands play... I mean a good giutar is no substitute for good music...:), and it's also a giutar with an image...
End then it's just one of these quirky little things I notice... like the fact nu-metal bass players seemed to ashamed to even think about 4 string... they've all got 5 (or 6 in the case of alien ant farm) string... but that maybe down the style and the fact it's good for the fact that even bass players a de-tuning by a step or more these days... sorry about the fact that i rant alot these days... I'm still upset with cakewalk...

[Christoph]

Originally posted by educatedfilm
hmm, it's nothing to do with the giutar it self.. but it seems to be a common factor . . .

Well dude, Limp Bizkit plays Ibanez (at least that Borland clown did), so that kinda shoots that theory down . . .

Did you get Cakewalk figured out? (uncheck "stretch from tempo")

[educatedfilm]

haven't sorted out cakewalk yet.. cos the pc has been formated and had Windows xp put on.. oh yeah an the whole pc has been upgraded... I'll go install cakewalk now actaaully, oh hold on the speakers dont work on this stupid pc, cos the power supply is normally take from a male socket, which isn't there :( :(... but thank's VERY VERY VERY much christoph, i think what you talking about sounds right... (i'll take that back if it doesn't work.. lol)..
hehe my theory was never super strings or (bloody m-theory which made me lose sleep cos what the f- are the other 7 out 11 dementions?) anything, it's just summit i noticed (with the bands I dont like anyway.. so that's: link'n park, hoob stank, lost prophets (great name though), incubus (i'll get linched for that), Nickle back , Sum 41 etc)

[Raskolnikov]

Originally posted by educatedfilm
incubus (i'll get linched for that)

::Belts Ed with a five string::

Ok, I'm happy now.

[educatedfilm]

f- me, that hurt!!!... right this is war... I hope you got some vasilne, for your five string, cos i'm gonna stick up your ---

[Edited by educatedfilm on 02-17-2002 at 10:19 AM]

[Christoph]

Incubus? Yeah, I'll agree with you. They're not anything special.

[educatedfilm]

hmmm... it's strange that me and you agree on things but form 180 degrees...well, it's a like a black and white photo and it's negative... some of the patches are complete opposites.. but that bland grey tone turns up on both... :) still no one else listen life with out biuldings... oh well... at least i dont feel like an arse now that this thread has got to 3 pages...:)

[Raskolnikov]

That's ok, I'm still right.

[Christoph]

Originally posted by educatedfilm
. . . at least i dont feel like an arse now that this thread has got to 3 pages...:)

LOL . . . true.

By the way dude, if you like that "Life Without Buildings" stuff then you might like Garbage. They're sorta like that, except they use a lot of industrial sounds. Oh yeah . . . and they don't suck.

[educatedfilm]

yeah i do like garbage... well their ealier stuff anyway... but For industrail You really need to listen to Primal Scream (if you like industrail u'll love "exterminator", cheesy name i know... but great album... especially "swastica eyes" or "kill all hippies" which is a film reference by the way, but some murderous base lines for that song).. If you start getting into industrail it is easier to get into some of the better dance acts like the chemical brothers, orbital, underworld... thanks for posting guys... I think i got enough pages to feel semi-respectable, lol

[ZackyH]

I tried listening to that song, New Town. I listened to half of it, pressed stop, and made sure that the piece of crap was wiped clean off of my hard drive. Dude, she can't sing. I don't think she sounds like Shirley Manson from Garbage. Shirley Manson can actually sing, dude. I thought the guitars were insanely too simple. I mean I like simplicity when it's done right but this was just unbearable. There wasn't any variation in the music. It just kept on playing the same thing over and over and over and over and over until it got really annoying.

If you want to listen to industrial then go listen to some Skinny Puppy. Listen to their song, Worlock. That song is so awesome! Ministry is pretty good. The only album I actually liked from them was Psalm 69, though. I have only listened to one other called A Mind is a Terrible Thing to Taste. I didn't care much for it. Check out the title track, Psalm 69 and give it a chance. It starts out a little slow but gets better.

[educatedfilm]

yeah... but i'm sure i mentioned that the singing isn't something that you immidiatly get, it gets irratating, then intresting, then it gets you paying real close attention... oh well, that's buggered my idea... Juno is different... infact Newtown is slightly unsual in it's repitition of the music... oh well...

[Raskolnikov]

Even I don't have this much trouble explaining my musical taste to people.

But hey, it's all about individual taste isn't it?

[educatedfilm]

heh... no one seems to over lap with half my musical taste (ranging from scotish drunken "throw your down the f-ing cliff" type angst... to Dub, to some jazz, to experimental 80's stuff... god there's too much to list... but basically i dont like anything glossy and too MTV happy and insincier)... I just thought it'd be cool if i got some feed back from giutar minded poeple about an non guitar based music... oh well, I found it irratating at first.. and then i heard it again, and i had to admit i was hooked by the rythem in the words "..I forgot, it's happening again... it's sooo diagonal"... I just thought "WTF?"... and then i heard some other tracks, and i really like this stuff now... it's kinda like a musical riddle really...
The same kinda thing happened with Led Zeplin, I really like their acoustic stuf, but anything bluesy irratated me... and then slowly i began to get it, and i love the stuff now... I love black dog now, but i really hated the vocals on it at first... kinda axle rose-esque(who's voice i still find irratating after listening to "appetite for destruction" and "the speggetti incident" loads of times...)

You still aint told me what you think Rask? This time try "juno" or "ps exclusive"(if your gonna try anything)... and gis' a shout if you do...
Sue can sing (like on 14days and acouple of other tracks), just she tries this weird rambling rythematic rap type sound... I personally like it (after having adjusted to it though)...
This is has kinda changed my view of things, I mean i dont think alot of poeple would get MY stuff, vocally is slightly more melodic than this, but essentailly isn't really singing (well not all of it anyway)... and I certainly would get bored of doing the whole linkin park type thing... plus i dont know a new experimental band get chart sucess... bollox.. :(.. it's not about chart sucess, but it gets ya down when no body has the foggiest what your doing, I mean there's nothing actaully wrong with it, just now one understands... kinda like being a great english speech giver, standing on some french (just the first the first country that came to mind) town centre giving a really powerful speech while poeple gawk at you (and mad dogs bark and salivate in your direction)

[Edited by educatedfilm on 02-18-2002 at 06:31 PM]

[Lordathestrings]

Originally posted by educatedfilm
heh... kinda like being a great ... speech giver, standing on some ... town centre giving a really powerful speech while poeple gawk at you (and mad dogs bark and salivate in your direction)...LMAO! 'sounds like a gig I played at the Kingston Community Centre, back in 1970! :D

[Raskolnikov]

I have not the bandwidth to check it out right now. Maybe this weekend when it's 2am and I'm bored out of my mind.

Oh, that and Audio Galaxy didn't work for Mac (last I checked anyway).

[educatedfilm]

Lordofthestrings: heheh... really that bad? (i aint got anyting against the french before anyone says anything...)
Rask: ok... but I'm telling you in advance, you wont get it all straight away...

[ZackyH]

Has anyone ever listened to Lords of Acid? There's a chick in that band too...and she's pretty perverted. Check out the song: Show Me Your *****
I think the title pretty much sums it up :)

[Raskolnikov]

Well, then there's Storm Inc. I think her band has also gone under "Storm and Her Dirty Mouth."