Tom Delonge

[blink 182]

I think they should put tom delonge in the "by inspiration" section of guitar tricks. any opinions????

[zepp_rules]

i don't

[Led Zeppelin]

Originally posted by zepp_rules
i don't

here here

[Willdridge]

'Fraid I'm with the Zep's here...Tom plays what he has to play, which is fair enough - he knows his limits...but for the majority of guitarists, he's not an inspiration...

[stratman42]

for me he's n anti inspiration - i'm inspired NOT to be like him

[Snacktruck]

yeah, i like his music but the man sucks at guitar...........so no.
:rolleyes:

[Edited by Snacktruck on 10-05-2001 at 10:28 PM]

[PonyOne]

They should put Ken Andrews of Failure or Graham Coxon of Blur in there. They both cover a number of different, distinctive styles; Graham Coxon more or less created britpop guitar, and Ken Andrews is just awesome, and managed to achieve very beautiful sounds via relatively straightforward means.

Tom Delonge knows how to hit the right string in rapid succession.

[Led Zeppelin]

Then youll be suprised that Blur werent Britpop at all. They owe more to US Alternative than anything. If anyone created Britpop guitar it was Noel Gallagher. Made fer it.

[Raskolnikov]

Ooooo....
I can see this getting ugly.

Then again, it may not. Who knows.

[PonyOne]

Well, you do have a point, on the one hand. On the other... can you picture an American band ever writing and recording-let alone getting airplay for- a song like Charmless Man, Chemical World, Parklife or Sunday Sunday?

Oasis is to Blur what Blink 182 are to the Specials (IMHO).

[Edited by PonyOne on 10-01-2001 at 11:11 PM]

[Led Zeppelin]

Thats why its called Alternative. Its weird. And strange. But pop. They were part o the britpop movement. They started of punk then went weird. Have you heard the Universal or whatever its called? Country House though, great song.

[educatedfilm]

Tom's an "ok" guitarist, he isn't even that good... Blink 182's strength is in writting catchy pops songs (that all pretty much sound the same)... I like the band, but you cant put them in the same catagory as Hendrix, Yngwieflkajflk Malmsteem, Vai or any other ground braking gutarist...( I can't belive i'm standing up for Vai...)
I fail to see how Noel Gallagher started the brit pop movement... Oasis put out good songs but the all have the same framework, they have same sound and feel. Anyway, listen to "girls and boys", and "pop sene", it's brit pop, with a plain English accent, no disputing it.
Any way Noel isn't really an insparation, you could get away with singing any Oasis song to a G C progression!!!...
I really liked morning glory, but let's be honest it's not too different from definetly maybe or any of their other stuff, before Gem jioned (the master plan was dire!!!).
Basically what i'm saying, is when it comes to guitar Blur really had the edge... The other band involved in the whole brit pop thing that never get any credit are PULP, why is that?

[Led Zeppelin]

1. Noel is an inspiration to me.

2. The reason noone remembeers Pulp is because there so busy laughing at Jarvis ****er.

3. Just because you can sing their songs to a GC progression doesnt mean they didnt start the Britpop movement. If you want exact details, The La's were the first Britpop band. They emerged during the Baggy movement(Stone Roses etc) had one huge hit(There She Goes) and didnt make it. Oasis took up from where they left off (along with alot of other bands) and the Britpop movement was born.

[educatedfilm]

hmmmm...Oasis picked up where the las left off? Pulp predate oasis by a long way, and the other band that isn't talked about is Shed 7,... oh yeah and "cast". I'm still strugling to see Oasis as brit pop... to me it's great manchester rock, nothing more nothing less...
The best brit-pop band when it comes to guitar is deffinetly Sued... that's a point, Sued were around during the brit pop movement, but they may have been late comers...
The blur/ Oasis thing only scratches the surface...
The Baggy movemet? That movement was ancient, it's the "stone roses" (amazing band) and the "happy mondays", and lots of other groups even including "culture club"!!! Basically it was the ecstacy (the drug) fueled era during the 80's (by his own confession, the guy from the happy mondays used to sell ecstasy to off-duty sailors, before the happy mondays really got going!!!).
Pulp, and Sued kind of brought intelligent song writing to brit-pop... oh yeah that reminds me, Elastica were around too, but they're a bunch of plagerising fools.

[hendrix_jimi]

I didn't even know what Blink 182's guitarist's name was before this thread was started. I think that the guitarist from Offspring (Noodles) or Green Day (Billie Joe) should be in the inspiration section before Blink182's guitarist. I mean, what could he inspire you to do? Play annoyingingly repetitive 3-power chord songs?

[Raskolnikov]

I think we may have just chased a well intentioned young kid right off the board...

Something to think about.

[Led Zeppelin]

educatedfilm, I know when the baggy movement was and it was killed off in the late 80's/early 90's around when the La's released their debut. Britpop was a natural progression from Baggy and Oasis brought it to the mainstream with the classic Definitely Maybe. And I forgot to mention the Masterplan wasnt a proper album, it was a collection of B-Sides from the singles off the previous albums(The Masterplan being one).

And Oasis are more than just "manchester rock" obviously seein as they still manage to sell out stadiums on a regular basis and there albums are still selling like hot cross buns in the morning.

[educatedfilm]

your right about the master plan... what i meant was the album after WTSMG, (BE HERE NOW, wasn't it?)...
The fact that they sell out means they're popular, not that they started brit-pop, or that they're not just Manchester Rock....
Rask about the blink182 kid, all i can see, is that i didn't mean to... oh well, it's too late to change anything, carry on...(oh yeah, i went to your site... bloody hell! how many guitars and basses have you got?!!! (remember i've only got the one guitar) Do you play for a living, or do you just like to spend everything on guitars and basses? I looked at you'r art work... it's ok, but why dont you put up a of couple sketches and paintings/ lithographs / prints /whatever? Computer art's a little boring.... nice page though.

[stratman42]

Yeh, there are much better "punk" guitarists than tom delonge. The Offsprings "noodles" and that guy from AFI especially...

[Raskolnikov]

Thanks for the visit. I pretty much do computer artish things when I'm in a certain mood, and I put it up because sometimes I feel the need. Currently most of my creative energies are devoted to a total revision of the band web page and writing words down on random soon to be lost scraps of paper.

As for guitars, I *only* have five. Only because I don't have more money to spend on more.

Anyway...
Back to mastering songs...

[educatedfilm]

cool... i'm not too into making computer art myself (not really my thing), give me a pencil and pad anytime... saying that though there is some rather cool computer art out there...

Back to the topic:
There are much better Punk giutarist, like noodles, billie joe, the guy from Rancid, or less than jake (i've started listening to some of their stuff, and it's pretty good!), and what's his name from The pistols.

[Led Zeppelin]

The guy from the pistols(Steve Jones I think. The guy from the Clash was another Jones) was crap. The best punk guitarist is Captain Sensible from the Damned