i cried learning theory :(

[wreckens]

omg i cant understand bout the theory
Ionian and Dorian and other 5 theory
yeh the only difrent i know is their intervals are difrent
how to use this stuff?
wats the point?
lol i hv no idea?
waaaaaa helpooooooo

[pizzicatopicker]

Well, theory is what goes behind music... Knowing theory will help you m SOO much in many, many ways. If your just starting off, dont get into it just yet.... It'll bore you... Just trust me, its worth your time and trouble learning it.

[wreckens]

does Ionian means like this?
E Ionian will goes like wwhwwwh
and go e f# g# a and ....
so E dorian will go whwwwhw
and go e f# g and so ever?
is that right?

[DAMAGED ONE]

http://guitarsecrets.com/lessons/constructing_scales.htm

[Fret spider]

i think of it this way. c ionion, d dorian, e watever, f watever, g mixolodian, a aolian, b locrainian. all have the same notes. but the notes play different roles.

for a simple example, if u are playing without backking track and u tend to play the note c a lot, it will sound like you are playing in c ionion. if u tend to play the note a a lot u are playing in a aolian.

another example. if u are playing over the chord progression C majour, G7 then A minor. u should play C ionion, then G mixolidian, then A aolian. the notes are the same for all but u should play them differently. playing the root, 3rd, 5th (and seventh for the G7 chord) will make the lead sound like it fits with the chords you are playing over. but this might be a bit boaring sounding. playing too many 2nds 4ths and 6ths will make the lead seem to not fit quite right. but using some will make the lead more interesting.

this is just the beguinin.

[wreckens]

I SEE! THX
but....
how shud we play c ionian?

[Jolly McJollyson]

i think of it this way. c ionion, d dorian, e watever, f watever, g mixolodian, a aolian, b locrainian. all have the same notes. but the notes play different roles.
C ionian, D dorian, E Phrygian, F Lydian, G Mixolydian, A Aeolian, B Locrian

[wreckens]

ohhh does the ionion is just a name?
c ionion to play it by c major scale?
ionion just stands for name?
right right?
yayyy thx to the link
i understands now i think

[Fret spider]

C ionian, D dorian, E Phrygian, F Lydian, G Mixolydian, A Aeolian, B Locrian


thanxs i always forget those ones.



and yes ionion is what people refer to as the majour scale.


very simply to play c ionion play lots of c's in your song. this is over simplifyin it a bit. but its a start. u can also play e's amd g's and ocasionally b's.

[ren]

thanxs i always forget those ones.

and yes ionion is what people refer to as the majour scale.

very simply to play c ionion play lots of c's in your song. this is over simplifyin it a bit. but its a start. u can also play e's amd g's and ocasionally b's.

Ionian is major (MAJOR). Just think of the intervals rather than the notes - WWHWWWH (W= whole tone or 2 frets, H = half tone or 1 fret) so C major (or ionian) would have the notes:

C D E F G A B C

C is maybe a bad example because it's the only key with no sharps or flats, but you get the idea.

D Dorian would be D E F G A B C D

E Phrygian would be E F G A B C D E

F Lydian would be F G A B C D E F

And so on - if you play a C Major scale but start on the second note (D), and extend it a note to get the 2nd octave, you're playing D Dorian. This is a big topic, and I suggest concentrating on Major & Minor (Ionian & Aeolian) and not going any further until you understand those...

playing loads of C's is just playing loads of C's... The E is the third and the G is the fifth, which make a major triad (Major chord tones), and the B is the seventh. Modes tie in with Diatonic Harmony, so I'd also suggest reading up on that...

**EDIT**

Having re-read the above, I should also point out that when people say 'D Dorian' they can either mean a dorian scale in D, or they can mean the second mode of D major, which would be E Dorian... :rolleyes:

Figured I should say it for completeness...

[wreckens]

yeh i got the mamjor chord theory
and e dorian bcoz its the second note on the d major or d ionian right?
but im still confuse onstarting on d in c major
extend ?
more explaination im clueless :D
thank you very much for helping =)

[ren]

yeh i got the mamjor chord theory
and e dorian bcoz its the second note on the d major or d ionian right?
but im still confuse onstarting on d in c major
extend ?
more explaination im clueless :D
thank you very much for helping =)

All I'm trying to say is, the notes stay the same but the intervals change. Likewise, play a c major scale normally, and then play an A minor scale starting on the third note (c) = the intervals mean you are still playing c major....

[wreckens]

so if we playing d note on c ionian the interval will be whwwwhw?

[ren]

so if we playing d note on c ionian the interval will be whwwwhw?

The intervals for Dorian are as above, yes. The key isnt't important, but (using C as the example again):

C Ionian - Parent Major Scale
D Dorian - Scale built on the second scale degree of C Ionian. Minor in tonality (diatonic harmony)
E Phrygian - Scale built on the third degree. Minor in tonality
F Lydian - Scale built on the fourth degree. Major in tonality
G Mixolydian - Scale built on the fifth degree. Major in tonality
A Aeolian - Scale built on sixth degree. Minor tonality - relative minor of C Ionian
B Locrian - Scale built on seventh degree. Diminished tonality

As well as looking at the scales in their relative positions as above, you might also benefit from playing all the shapes in A (For example). Layering them over each other helps you to see easily which notes they share, and which are different for each mode - makes it possible to play in different keys without moving from the box you're playing, just changing the box.

[wreckens]

thx alot i understand now :D
really!
=))