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stackny
02-22-2006, 09:41 PM
I dont know where this should be posted but you guys gotta check it out. Im sorry but this is some of the funniest crap Ive ever seen.

http://www.myspace.com/malevolence1

Scroll down and play the movie. I hope these guys arent serious and I hope none of the members are on this board.

Cryptic Excretions
02-22-2006, 10:03 PM
Breakdowns suck.

CW14
02-22-2006, 10:04 PM
They're serious all right...

I've heard a lot of worse bands than that, but I admit the vocals were terrible.

Hardcore dancing is stupid, btw.

jiujitsu_jesus
02-22-2006, 11:34 PM
Were those guys in the moshpit dancing, or beating each other up?

CW14
02-22-2006, 11:39 PM
Were those guys in the moshpit dancing, or beating each other up?
They were swinging their arms around like retards (aka hardcore dancing)

stackny
02-22-2006, 11:39 PM
Were those guys in the moshpit dancing, or beating each other up?

Idk, but its freekin hillarious. I love how one guy is playing with a Gibson onstage. That doesnt even look right.

leland
02-23-2006, 12:19 AM
can someone tab that song for me PLEASE!!

Jolly McJollyson
02-23-2006, 12:22 AM
can someone tab that song for me PLEASE!!
Haha, nicely done.

6strngs_2hmbkrs
02-23-2006, 12:50 AM
I dunno, it definitely was NOT the greatest band to walk the earth, but it wasn't even close to the worst band in the world. I think they were better then alot of people out there making millions of dollars off of their crappy music (a.k.a. hilary duff, lindsey lohan, eminem, etc.)

btw, I still don't know how to make that sound.. where they were playing their drop C power chord 3 times then there was that higher pitched thing, that's kinda hard to explain.. it's kinda sounds like moving a metal chair across like a tile floor.. at the part where they went DUN DUN DUN dwant I wanna know how to make that "dwant" sound..

Vegas Wierdo
02-23-2006, 01:21 AM
Awful awful awful!!! And I actually like three-chord trash punk hardcore and say so unashamedly.

I mean, here's the thing. If you're bad you're supposed to not give a s**t and be sticking your middle finger up, that's the true spirit of punk... you're not supposed to A) fail to realize it and B) take yourself seriously.

These guys call themselves "metal", which makes it worse. Worst screech/death grunt vocals I've ever heard in my life. Unintelligible like Ian MacKaye of Minor Threat or HR of Bad Brains is fine... or hell.... full on death grunt vocals done right (Kataklysm, Cannibal Corpse, etc.)... but this guy sounds like an old dying goat with a bad throat cold. Weak sauce!!!

Regarding hardcore dancing: I used to bounce pits at hardcore shows. Hey... it's a major release... and hell, at least they're not getting their release by fighting and*Cough* Oh... wait a minute.... :(

Besides, you ever seen white guys try to dance at techno hip hop nightclubs? After seeing that you'll realize that maybe those hardcore dancers are on to something... Kidding!!! :D But I myself do believe that the latter is more fun than the former... even if the girls are scared away. Hell, I'd scare 'em off doing either one, so.... :D

CW14
02-23-2006, 01:28 AM
can someone tab that song for me PLEASE!!
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-0--0--0--0--0--0--0--0--0--0--0--0--0--0--0--0--0--0--0- etc.

Cryptic Excretions
02-23-2006, 08:03 AM
I dunno, it definitely was NOT the greatest band to walk the earth, but it wasn't even close to the worst band in the world. I think they were better then alot of people out there making millions of dollars off of their crappy music (a.k.a. hilary duff, lindsey lohan, eminem, etc.)

btw, I still don't know how to make that sound.. where they were playing their drop C power chord 3 times then there was that higher pitched thing, that's kinda hard to explain.. it's kinda sounds like moving a metal chair across like a tile floor.. at the part where they went DUN DUN DUN dwant I wanna know how to make that "dwant" sound..
I'm not quite sure of which part your talking about, but I've got two ideas, one of which I'm sure is the one you're referring to. One of the parts just sounds like a regular pinch harmonic without vibrato. The other sounds like two different notes being played at the same time. Just something to get that dissonant sound. They probably know how to do it because they saw it in someone else's tabs. Seriously, they're chock full of incredibly poor song writing skill. It's blatantly obvious on listen that they get their ideas from other peoples' tabs. The song itself seemed like one big break down. It was boring. And their performance just makes me that much more of a believer that the best performances are people that put their musicianship before their stage antics.

stackny
02-23-2006, 09:07 AM
Yeah, I know theres worse bands, I just thought you guys would enjoy that so I put it here and that title seemed semi-appropriate. Whenever I need a good laugh I go and watch that video.

quickfingers
02-23-2006, 09:46 AM
Idk, but its freekin hillarious. I love how one guy is playing with a Gibson onstage. That doesnt even look right.


all hardcore kids play gibsons, dude. i love it how 90% of the people on this forum have never been to a local show and no absolutely nothing about any scene. thats pretty common, man.

Cryptic Excretions
02-23-2006, 10:09 AM
all hardcore kids play gibsons, dude. i love it how 90% of the people on this forum have never been to a local show and no absolutely nothing about any scene. thats pretty common, man.
Actually, the majority of hardcore kids play ESP and/or LTD. A good chunk of them play Gibson as well, but I've seen about a 9:1 ratio of ESP vs. Gibson in the hardcore scene.

acapella
02-23-2006, 10:24 AM
I didn't even bother listening to these guys, I can guess what they sound like from the posts. But yeah, why is it that so many awful, unmusical bands play these beautiful guitars? They should be playing some kind of crap-looking metal guitars. Gibsons and stuff are meant for playing actual music, it seems like a crime.

Cryptic Excretions
02-23-2006, 10:36 AM
I didn't even bother listening to these guys, I can guess what they sound like from the posts. But yeah, why is it that so many awful, unmusical bands play these beautiful guitars? They should be playing some kind of crap-looking metal guitars. Gibsons and stuff are meant for playing actual music, it seems like a crime.
...Like ESP.

Andrew Sa
02-23-2006, 10:57 AM
Forget the Gibson, one of those dudes (in the pictures) has a PRS CE 24...thats a nice guitar.

acapella
02-23-2006, 11:11 AM
...Like ESP.

ESP is gross. ESP should be a crime too. ESPecially for the barely disquised Les Paul and SG ripoffs, not to mention the Ibanez copies. The headstock even looks the practically the same as Jackson. And then there's the awful metal guitars. :mad:

Cryptic Excretions
02-23-2006, 11:16 AM
ESP is gross. ESP should be a crime too. ESPecially for the barely disquised Les Paul and SG ripoffs, not to mention the Ibanez copies. The headstock even looks the practically the same as Jackson. And then there's the awful metal guitars. :mad:
I don't think that I'd mind that they were so blatantly ripping off other body styles as much if I thought they were making good guitars. I can't recall any time where I've played an ESP and had anything good to say about the experience. Of course I won't lie. I've had worse experiences. A friend of mine has a First Act, that's the worst thing I've ever played. But I just don't feel comfortable on an ESP.

stackny
02-23-2006, 11:19 AM
all hardcore kids play gibsons, dude. i love it how 90% of the people on this forum have never been to a local show and no absolutely nothing about any scene. thats pretty common, man.

Well thanks for enlightening me.....I have been under the impression that Gibsons were more for blues and Ive never seen an actual metal guitarist playing a Gibson on stage.

acapella
02-23-2006, 11:22 AM
Well thanks for enlightening me.....I have been under the impression that Gibsons were more for blues and Ive never seen an actual metal guitarist playing a Gibson on stage.

Well, on the St. Anger DVD the Les Paul seems to pop up a lot...

Cookie monster
02-23-2006, 11:26 AM
btw, I still don't know how to make that sound.. where they were playing their drop C power chord 3 times then there was that higher pitched thing, that's kinda hard to explain.. it's kinda sounds like moving a metal chair across like a tile floor.. at the part where they went DUN DUN DUN dwant I wanna know how to make that "dwant" sound..

I cant play guitar so I cant tell you what fret it is on but Im pretty sure its a pinch harmonic of this
Example: (I have a feeling its in D)
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--------------10-----------------------------
--------------12-*--------------------------
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*=bend the twelve but not the 10

stackny
02-23-2006, 11:30 AM
Well, on the St. Anger DVD the Les Paul seems to pop up a lot...

Id rather watch this band's movie over the St. Anger DVD. At least this is bad enough to the point that its entertaining.

Cryptic Excretions
02-23-2006, 11:50 AM
Well, on the St. Anger DVD the Les Paul seems to pop up a lot...
I think that would be an LTD. If I"m not mistaken, Metallica doesn't play Gibsons.

Jolly McJollyson
02-23-2006, 12:08 PM
Well thanks for enlightening me.....I have been under the impression that Gibsons were more for blues and Ive never seen an actual metal guitarist playing a Gibson on stage.
AC/DC? Zakk Wylde? Slash?

6strngs_2hmbkrs
02-23-2006, 01:38 PM
yeah, and a les paul isn't the only gibson in the world.. what about an SG? I've seen plenty of metal bands use an SG, though schecter is make a break-through in the metal genre as well. I see les pauls all the time for metal. not to mention those gibson flying V's, can you get more metal then a flying V?

also, ESP isn't that bad. I've played one, and thought it was a great guitar for the price, I didn't buy it because my SG was still better, but this was only a cheapie ESP, it only cost like $280 or something like that. and I thought it was pretty good. though it was a les paul knockoff.

I'll give that 2-string thing where you bend one string, and just play another. I'm not near any guitars right now.. even though I have to be at my guitar class in 45 minutes, but I accidently slept in this morning, and then in my haste to get out the door, I completely forgot it. so, this should be interesting, playing air guitar at my class.. yeah!

jiujitsu_jesus
02-23-2006, 01:54 PM
can you get more metal then a flying V?

An X-Plorer!

acapella
02-23-2006, 02:03 PM
According to http://www.allmetallica.com/info/equipment/kirk.php Kirk Hammet uses not one, but two Les Pauls onstage.

earthman buck
02-23-2006, 02:07 PM
According to http://www.allmetallica.com/info/equipment/kirk.php Kirk Hammet uses not one, but two Les Pauls onstage.
Hammett has two t's. Hammett.

Cryptic Excretions
02-23-2006, 02:28 PM
An X-Plorer!
No way. The V tops it all. Vs are the source of all metal guitars. Without the V there wouldn't be anything else.

stackny
02-23-2006, 02:30 PM
AC/DC? Zakk Wylde? Slash?

AC/DC isnt metal. I dont consider GnR metal either.

6strngs_2hmbkrs
02-23-2006, 04:19 PM
AC/DC isnt metal. I dont consider GnR metal either.
how bout angus young?

I saw a metal band called haste the day in concert, and the rhythm player used a schecter C-1 something or other (not the classic) and the lead player used a platinum colored SG.

lots of metal bands use les pauls ands SGs, no names in particular spring to mind, but if you did some research, I'm sure you'd find plenty that do.

6strngs_2hmbkrs
02-23-2006, 04:21 PM
No way. The V tops it all. Vs are the source of all metal guitars. Without the V there wouldn't be anything else.
I concur

Akira
02-23-2006, 04:29 PM
That was awful.

elklandercc
02-23-2006, 04:42 PM
how bout angus young?

I saw a metal band called haste the day in concert, and the rhythm player used a schecter C-1 something or other (not the classic) and the lead player used a platinum colored SG.

lots of metal bands use les pauls ands SGs, no names in particular spring to mind, but if you did some research, I'm sure you'd find plenty that do.
Every time I go to a local show I always see at least 5 Gibsons, then comes Shecters, then Prs's, then Strats. And about that akward note you were talking about, I feel you on that one. I've been trying to get that sound for a while now, the closest I got was playing this :

drop d or c , open notes played fast
|---------------------------0---|
|---------------------------3---|
|-------------------------------|
|--0-0-0---0-0-0---0-0-0-------|
|--0-0-0---0-0-0---0-0-0-------|
|--0-0-0---0-0-0---0-0-0-------|
pm . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . .

Other than that I just vary the 2nd string around that 3. Hope that helped.

stackny
02-23-2006, 05:08 PM
how bout angus young?



I dont think Angus is metal. More blues and rock than metal. Guess I just havent seen many metal guitarists with Gibsons, but apparently its fairly common. Usually I think of blues players when I think of Gibsons and I think of Jacksons and Ibanez's when I think of metal.

Vegas Wierdo
02-23-2006, 05:11 PM
At punk/hardcore shows in both Los Angeles and Las Vegas, I've always seen more Gibsons and Fenders than anything else. The Sex Pistols had an expensive high-end Les Paul that they burglarized from Rod Stewart, and they did awful things with it that it wasn't meant to do at all. Jimmy Page had an LP, Tony Iommi (who wrote the first chapter of the book on metal guitar) had an SG, Hendrix of course had a Strat....

The SG was the orginal metal guitar, I think.

stackny
02-23-2006, 06:18 PM
I guess I stand corrected on the Gibson not being a metal guitar...None the less, that kid doesnt deserve to be playing one.

PonyOne
02-23-2006, 07:04 PM
At punk/hardcore shows in both Los Angeles and Las Vegas, I've always seen more Gibsons and Fenders than anything else. The Sex Pistols had an expensive high-end Les Paul that they burglarized from Rod Stewart, and they did awful things with it that it wasn't meant to do at all. Jimmy Page had an LP, Tony Iommi (who wrote the first chapter of the book on metal guitar) had an SG, Hendrix of course had a Strat....

The SG was the orginal metal guitar, I think.
I live in LA and with most bands, yeah, you see brand new LP's and Strats, and quite often, brand spanking new Marshalls. LA is very concerned with image, and though, oh, let's say... 90% of the crowd couldn't tell an LP from a Tele from a PRS from a Samick, and they are playing them because they feel like it's necessary to be "down." I say: who cares?

I don't like Sparta (learn to sing on key) or Blink 182.

Cryptic Excretions
02-23-2006, 07:13 PM
I guess I stand corrected on the Gibson not being a metal guitar...None the less, that kid doesnt deserve to be playing one.
Just to further smash it in your face... I play a Gibson part of the time and I make mostly metal.

Cryptic Excretions
02-23-2006, 07:15 PM
I live in LA and with most bands, yeah, you see brand new LP's and Strats, and quite often, brand spanking new Marshalls. LA is very concerned with image, and though, oh, let's say... 90% of the crowd couldn't tell an LP from a Tele from a PRS from a Samick, and they are playing them because they feel like it's necessary to be "down." I say: who cares?

I agree. My primary reason for playing what I play is because it's what I've grown up with. So it feels most natural to me.

stackny
02-23-2006, 07:26 PM
Just to further smash it in your face... I play a Gibson part of the time and I make mostly metal.

You no good son of a bitch. :mad:

Cryptic Excretions
02-23-2006, 07:33 PM
You no good son of a bitch. :mad:
Yeah... I know... but I'm a no good son of a bitch that plays brutal death metal on a GIBSON SG!!!!

PonyOne
02-23-2006, 08:05 PM
I wholeheartedly believe there is absolutely nothing wrong with a Gibson, Fender, PRS, etc... if it feels and sounds the way you want then fine, but blowing your savings on a swank brand name guitar won't necessarily make you sound good onstage if you have no skills.

but that's a point that's been beaten to death over and over and over...

stackny
02-23-2006, 08:12 PM
Yeah... I know... but I'm a no good son of a bitch that plays brutal death metal on a GIBSON SG!!!!

And a lucky no good son of a bitch you are!

Cryptic Excretions
02-23-2006, 08:15 PM
And a lucky no good son of a bitch you are!
Lucky I didn't put myself in the hole, yeah. The blasted thing cost me enough. But it's ok, I wanted it ever bit as bad and I can't say I regret it. So ha.

6strngs_2hmbkrs
02-23-2006, 09:48 PM
I dont think Angus is metal. More blues and rock than metal. Guess I just havent seen many metal guitarists with Gibsons, but apparently its fairly common. Usually I think of blues players when I think of Gibsons and I think of Jacksons and Ibanez's when I think of metal.
yes, I'm sorry.. I said the wrong name.. I was thinking Tony Iommi, don't know how I got angus young instead.. oh well!

BTW, I'm with cryptic, and I also play brutal metalon my gibson SG as well!

stackny
02-23-2006, 10:01 PM
yes, I'm sorry.. I said the wrong name.. I was thinking Tony Iommi, don't know how I got angus young instead.. oh well!

BTW, I'm with cryptic, and I also play brutal metalon my gibson SG as well!

Dont worry bout it Bambi. :D

6strngs_2hmbkrs
02-23-2006, 10:23 PM
Dont worry bout it Bambi. :D
thanks, zazoo!!!

oh, hey, guess what guys? I figured out how to make that sound
|-----------------------------------
|--------------------------0--------
|--------------------------5--------
|--------------------------5--------
|--0--0--0--0--0--0--0-------------
|--0--0--0--0--0--0--0-------------
PM|---------------|

or, for a slightly higher pitched version

|--------------------------0---------
|--------------------------6--------
|--------------------------5--------
|-----------------------------------
|--0--0--0--0--0--0--0-------------
|--0--0--0--0--0--0--0-------------
PM|---------------|

it also works (I couldn't decide which worked better) if you angle the pick sortof so that you do a pinch harmonic on the first string that you pick and then the other two play normally.. kinda hard to explain.. but you don't have to do this to get that sound.

Vegas Wierdo
02-24-2006, 03:37 AM
Sometimes it's just barrels of good clean fun to go see hardcore bands and get your head smacked against the wall or get flipped upside down or get a fat lip and basically run around acting like a moron.

Or at least I think so.

I'd much rather do that than go to one of those fancy-pants techno-pop nightclubs that Vegas is known for, where it's like 30 bucks to get in and individual drinks are almost as expensive.

But no matter how much fun you have in the pit, thrashing and howling like an ape, and no matter how much that fun was facillitated by the band... unless they're like Dillinger Escape Plan or something (they can probably outplay 98% of everyone on this forum), don't buy the album!!! :eek:

I mean... unless you were at one of Minor Threat's early shows back in like 1981 or something... that album would be worth a wee bit of $$$ now.

Jolly McJollyson
02-24-2006, 05:32 AM
Sometimes it's just barrels of good clean fun to go see hardcore bands and get your head smacked against the wall or get flipped upside down or get a fat lip and basically run around acting like a moron.

Or at least I think so.

I'd much rather do that than go to one of those fancy-pants techno-pop nightclubs that Vegas is known for, where it's like 30 bucks to get in and individual drinks are almost as expensive.

But no matter how much fun you have in the pit, thrashing and howling like an ape, and no matter how much that fun was facillitated by the band... unless they're like Dillinger Escape Plan or something (they can probably outplay 98% of everyone on this forum), don't buy the album!!! :eek:

I mean... unless you were at one of Minor Threat's early shows back in like 1981 or something... that album would be worth a wee bit of $$$ now.
But why do that when you could participate in the pit at, like, a Dead Kennedys concert? Or Carcass?

acapella
02-24-2006, 10:33 AM
You have't seen a pit until you've been to some Christian rock concerts. Rush seating, anything goes. I went to Skillet last year, and it's the only time in my life I honestly thought I might not leave a building alive. It was awesome!!!

Cryptic Excretions
02-24-2006, 11:58 AM
You have't seen a pit until you've been to some Christian rock concerts. Rush seating, anything goes. I went to Skillet last year, and it's the only time in my life I honestly thought I might not leave a building alive. It was awesome!!!
Pffff... None of you have experienced true madness amongst the audience until you've been to a Weird Al show.

Akira
02-24-2006, 12:30 PM
Pits are fun. I remember when I went to see Bad Religion, I ended up in a pit with 4 huge guys, I ached afterwards.

That "hardcore dancing" stuff does my head in though. Some twit broke my nose in a pit when they decided to start doing that stuff.

6strngs_2hmbkrs
02-24-2006, 01:43 PM
You have't seen a pit until you've been to some Christian rock concerts. Rush seating, anything goes. I went to Skillet last year, and it's the only time in my life I honestly thought I might not leave a building alive. It was awesome!!!
ha ha.. skillet..

I went to a project 86 concet, and started the concert being pretty much in the middle of the crowd, kinda on the left.. then I was pushed/pushed my way all the way to the second row dead center stage.. I also went to haste the day like 2 days later, but I was still sore from the project 86 concert so I just stayed in the back. I'm telling you, christian rock/metal concerts aren't half bad.. nothing compared to a secular metal concert though (anyone seen the wall of death (http://youtube.com/watch?v=6GrZI2LH7lc&search=wall%20of%20death) at a lamb of god concert? *parental advisory: explicit lyrics*)

Cryptic Excretions
02-24-2006, 02:03 PM
ha ha.. skillet..

I went to a project 86 concet, and started the concert being pretty much in the middle of the crowd, kinda on the left.. then I was pushed/pushed my way all the way to the second row dead center stage.. I also went to haste the day like 2 days later, but I was still sore from the project 86 concert so I just stayed in the back. I'm telling you, christian rock/metal concerts aren't half bad.. nothing compared to a secular metal concert though (anyone seen the wall of death (http://youtube.com/watch?v=6GrZI2LH7lc&search=wall%20of%20death) at a lamb of god concert? *parental advisory: explicit lyrics*)
I've been in a wall of death before. Not at a Lamb of God concert, though. I recall it being intense.

acapella
02-24-2006, 02:10 PM
What's funny about a Skillet concert? The pits are great (at least where I was) and you can actually listen to the music.

Cryptic Excretions
02-24-2006, 03:40 PM
What's funny about a Skillet concert? The pits are great (at least where I was) and you can actually listen to the music.
I stopped worrying about the pits when I started going to bands that made good music. Who cares about running into people? I'm more interested in seeing the band do what they do and how well they do it.

jeffhx
02-24-2006, 05:03 PM
one of them was trying to do the whirlygig thingy a couple of times did he? LOL... were they even playing that song? or watever u'd call it...

being relatively small in size... ive always liked the pits and have suffered for it... i litereally bounce around like a pinball... and i flew... ahh... thats the nice part... then id land flat on my ass... i thought i screwed up my backbone once... its crazy but heaps of fun

stackny
02-24-2006, 05:05 PM
I have no desire whatsoever to be in a pit. I wanna hear the music thats playing, not run around like some kind of retard. Doesnt help Im only 5'7" and 130lbs.....

jeffhx
02-24-2006, 05:15 PM
thats true... back then i was a really emo kid... take as a form of a stress reliever LOL... i dont do it anymore now hell i dont even go for gigs nowadays...

Cryptic Excretions
02-24-2006, 06:08 PM
I have no desire whatsoever to be in a pit. I wanna hear the music thats playing, not run around like some kind of retard. Doesnt help Im only 5'7" and 130lbs.....
Yeah, see as far as size goes I'm in the same boat... and I have suffered from it before, but these days I'm apt to agree with you. What's the point in paying to see someone perform if you're not going to watch them? It's like going to a movie and dancing to the sound track rather than watching it for the plot.

6strngs_2hmbkrs
02-24-2006, 07:57 PM
were they even playing that song? or watever u'd call it...
I think the sound track and the video track were not aligned properly.. and yes, I would call it a song, don't diss my lamb of god!!! metal is just as much music as is classical, seeing as some of it is greatly inspired by classical.

stackny
02-24-2006, 08:27 PM
I dont think Ill ever become accustomed to that low pitch growl. Gimme a good vocalist (as in singing) any day over that.....not saying it doesnt take skill, just aint my thing.

Jolly McJollyson
02-24-2006, 08:53 PM
I dont think Ill ever become accustomed to that low pitch growl. Gimme a good vocalist (as in singing) any day over that.....not saying it doesnt take skill, just aint my thing.
Crapping out a replica of the lincoln memorial would take skill, but it doesn't make it any less vile and totally illegitimate as an art form.

earthman buck
02-24-2006, 09:14 PM
Crapping out a replica of the lincoln memorial would take skill, but it doesn't make it any less vile and totally illegitimate as an art form.
Illegitimate as an art form? What are you, the art police? There's a lot of crappy art (no pun intended, although I'm glad it turned out as one) out there, that doesn't make it illegitimate.

6strngs_2hmbkrs
02-24-2006, 09:33 PM
Illegitimate as an art form? What are you, the art police? There's a lot of crappy art (no pun intended, although I'm glad it turned out as one) out there, that doesn't make it illegitimate.
also, it doesn't mean that the crappy art is any better then another piece of art, crappy or not

Vegas Wierdo
02-25-2006, 01:23 AM
I get bored real easy. Only if the band is absolutely extraordinary will I just stand there and watch... as in, not just the playing but what they're doing on stage. One time I saw this hardcore band called Showbread... it was like they were having a collective granmol seizure. And there was this one part where all four guitarists (including the bassist) suddenly took their guitars off and started twirling them over their heads by the headstocks and missing each other's heads by mere inches... it was almost choreographed but very random and violent. Everyone was too mesmerized to move.

Cryptic Excretions
02-26-2006, 12:34 AM
Hey now... let's not go knocking on the growling. Need I remind you all I growl? It's not easy and takes time and practice to develop. Sure you'll never catch a teacher that teaches growling, and that's fine, but it still takes time and dedication to keep from running out of breath as well as not ruining your voice. Just like any other type of singing. Besides, it works well with a lot of the stuff I write. Not all of it, but a lot of it.

6strngs_2hmbkrs
02-26-2006, 01:24 AM
from what I've seen, most metal singers, or "growlers" as you are calling them, can actually sing extremely well normally. I believe that how well you can "growl" may be directly related to how well you can sing. I sure as hell can't growl, try as I might.

Vegas Wierdo
02-26-2006, 04:30 AM
RRAAARRRRRRRR!!!! COOKIES COOKIES COOKIES!!!!! RARRARRAR*MUNCHMUNCHMUNCHSLOBBER*RARRRRRR!!!!

http://flackadelic.typepad.com/flackadelic/images/cookiemonster2.jpg

jeffhx
02-26-2006, 04:41 AM
sesame street scares the crap outta me...

CW14
02-26-2006, 05:04 AM
from what I've seen, most metal singers, or "growlers" as you are calling them, can actually sing extremely well normally. I believe that how well you can "growl" may be directly related to how well you can sing. I sure as hell can't growl, try as I might.
Mikael Akerfeldt is incredible with both styles... but I've heard a lot of guys who can growl but can't pitch a note for the life of them.

Cryptic Excretions
02-26-2006, 08:42 AM
I'm still working on my singing. I suck. No way around it. I'm getting better I guess, but I still flat out suck. But if you want me to say something that no one else can understand then I've got that covered.

jiujitsu_jesus
02-26-2006, 11:36 AM
I can sing OK, but I've never tried growling... the only full-on growling band I like is Lamb of God (I also like Machine Head, Shadows Fall, Opeth and Trivium, who growl for part of the time). Cryptic, you're a growler - how do you do it? Is it diaphragmatic, or do you just roar from the back of your throat in a low register?

6strngs_2hmbkrs
02-26-2006, 12:01 PM
if I'm not mistaken, cryptic does the death metal growl, where it's all low and you can't understand what they're saying.. lamb of god style growling goes alot higher in pitch, and you can understand it if you listen closely.

I've been trying to teach myself the lamb of god style.. I'm getting better, but I definitely wouldn't try it on a stage at all.. I kinda do it from the back of the thoat.. it works some days, and not on others.. and I can't sing it very loud..

Cryptic Excretions
02-26-2006, 01:02 PM
Lamb of God doesn't really count as a growl, it's more of a raspy cackle if you ask me. Growling is gutteral and it works pretty much just like any other vocal style. Push air from your stomach and aim for a lower pitch. Only real difference is your distorting it. The thing about it is if you're not careful you can pull a Chris Barnes or an Anders Friden and flat out ruin your voice if you use it like a toy.

I'm not too much doing exclusive lows anymore though, lately I've been working on my higher wails, so those are coming along quite well. But yeah, my lows are incoherant, but I can add clarity.

Vegas Wierdo
02-28-2006, 12:27 AM
I like to rant and rave all hardcore and angsty like Henry Rollins... or sing/scream way badly off key like Wesley Willis. Throw in a little Misfits-era Glenn Danzig crooning and some of the stuff Serj Tankian of System of a Down pulls... and that's me. :D

jiujitsu_jesus
02-28-2006, 01:16 AM
I'm not too much doing exclusive lows anymore though, lately I've been working on my higher wails, so those are coming along quite well.

Cool! Just don't turn into a Greg Puciato or a Dani Filth *shudder*

stackny
02-28-2006, 12:12 PM
I added those guys on myspace so I could tell them how much they sucked, but then they said something nice and I felt bad so I just pretended I liked them.....

Cryptic Excretions
02-28-2006, 12:42 PM
I added those guys on myspace so I could tell them how much they sucked, but then they said something nice and I felt bad so I just pretended I liked them.....
One of the vocalists in my band is actually pretty good friends with Cradle of Filth, actually. He lives really close to where they perform when they're on tour so every time they come by he hangs out with them. The kicker is that he hates their music.

jiujitsu_jesus
02-28-2006, 01:50 PM
I think Cradle of Filth are okay if you mentally block out the "singing"!

6strngs_2hmbkrs
02-28-2006, 02:32 PM
I hate how overpopularized their music is.. but I think it's actually pretty good. I like the choir and keyboarding skills, lol. guitar/drums/bass work isn't all that great, and the singing is... unique... but the arrangement of it, to make that "scary" sounding music, I like that.

Cryptic Excretions
02-28-2006, 03:42 PM
I kinda think they're lame all around. There are very few songs that I enjoy listening to, all of which would be better without Dani, and even better with a whole different band that played completely different music.

64johnny
02-28-2006, 06:51 PM
:cool: worst band ever? i think that is my baby! we need work! experiencing technical difficulties in the sound/recording dept. we'll get it right one day! peace love and good will to all of you, and as always ''rock on!'' john :cool: