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16andlifetogo
12-21-2005, 07:56 PM
what scales should i learn first? i know there are alot. but what do i need to learn rigth now to get me by?

16andlifetogo
12-22-2005, 10:58 PM
anyone? :confused:

DeadInMagazines
12-23-2005, 10:59 AM
Learn Minor and Major, then learn the different types of minor (jazz, melodic, harmonic), then learn the modes (Dorian, Phyrgian, Lydian, Mixolydian, Locrian), and Phyrgian dominant and/or the double harmonic scale.

DeadInMagazines
12-24-2005, 06:55 PM
*tumble weed rolls by

16andlifetogo
12-25-2005, 12:29 AM
Learn Minor and Major, then learn the different types of minor (jazz, melodic, harmonic), then learn the modes (Dorian, Phyrgian, Lydian, Mixolydian, Locrian), and Phyrgian dominant and/or the double harmonic scale.
Thanks for the advise man. any tips on were I can learn these? im shure if i do a search i can find them.

anyways, thanks agin man, and merry christmas


PS, sorry for the slow reply. i have been busy, and only had a few seconds to browse the forums earlyer today.

DeadInMagazines
12-26-2005, 08:33 AM
www.wholenote.com

I it has fingering diagrams and everything, it's pretty awesome.

Or you could just IM me and I could help you out.

SN: PunishxMyxHeaven

16andlifetogo
12-26-2005, 10:49 AM
alrigth cool

thanks agin :)

paulharbosky
12-29-2005, 12:10 AM
Id say that (Minor/Major)pentatonic scales are awsome for the beginner!
They sound good at any speed and they are easy to play. :)

16andlifetogo
12-29-2005, 12:40 AM
Id say that (Minor/Major)pentatonic scales are awsome for the beginner!
They sound good at any speed and they are easy to play. :)

cool, thanks

alucard0941
12-29-2005, 11:29 PM
chromatic :p

mr.slash
01-01-2006, 11:15 AM
obviously you need to learn the major scale, cuz so many scales are based off of it, like all the 7 modes,learn all the modes, the blues scale(its fun improvising with it) pentatonic(if you like rock the minor pentitonic is an awesome scale to use) id say learn the mixo-blues scale, it has more of a chromatic sound to it

Ito1221
01-06-2006, 11:52 AM
I guess it kind of depends on what you wanna play. For any style the best thing to learn is your major and minor pentatonic scales up and down the neck especially if you wanna play lead. For metal i would learn your minor scales first(harmonic, melodic). For blues lkearn major and your blues scale which is basically two notes added on to the pentatonic scale. Once you learn your majors and your minors, learn arpeggios first....get familiar with those cause those are generally what you use when you play.

16andlifetogo
01-06-2006, 12:04 PM
I guess it kind of depends on what you wanna play. For any style the best thing to learn is your major and minor pentatonic scales up and down the neck especially if you wanna play lead. For metal i would learn your minor scales first(harmonic, melodic). For blues lkearn major and your blues scale which is basically two notes added on to the pentatonic scale. Once you learn your majors and your minors, learn arpeggios first....get familiar with those cause those are generally what you use when you play.

thanks :)

earthman buck
01-06-2006, 01:12 PM
Would you folks say not knowing scales is detrimental to my guitar progress? Because even when I was taking guitar lessons, not a lot of time was spent on scales. I have a guitar world magazine that talks about the modes, and when I got it, I spent some time figuring them out and practicing them. I think I'd probably forget most scales anyway the second I stopped practicing them. The way I see it, scales would only come in handy when improvising, and while I'm not very good at improvising, I can usually figure out what fret the note I want to play is at before I play it. Do you guys think scales are really that important? Should I start practicing them?

magicninja
01-06-2006, 01:32 PM
Scales are ridiculusly important. Even if you don't play lead!! :eek: With a scale you can use your chord construction theory to make any number of valuable chords. If you play lead you absolutly need scales. Scales are what like 70% of what guitar playing is all about. Learn your scales. As many as possible.

3rd_degreeburn
01-06-2006, 04:24 PM
1- learn the notes on the fretboard backwards and fowards
2- learn the forumals for each scale and chord etc
That way you dont have to memorize a thousand differnt diagrams etc.. you will just know how to make/play them.

earthman buck
01-06-2006, 06:59 PM
Scales are ridiculusly important. Even if you don't play lead!! :eek: With a scale you can use your chord construction theory to make any number of valuable chords. If you play lead you absolutly need scales. Scales are what like 70% of what guitar playing is all about. Learn your scales. As many as possible.

I had no idea!

Dennis Logan
01-08-2006, 09:08 PM
I have all the pentatonic "boxes" shown on a 22-fret guitar neck, for all keys, in an Excel spreadsheets. It is an excellent tool when pracaticing.

If you would like me to email them to you, let me know.
Email me at djlogan33@cs.com

16andlifetogo
01-09-2006, 01:13 AM
I have all the pentatonic "boxes" shown on a 22-fret guitar neck, for all keys, in an Excel spreadsheets. It is an excellent tool when pracaticing.

If you would like me to email them to you, let me know.
Email me at djlogan33@cs.com

thanks alot dennis :)


BTW, anyone know were i can get a printout of the notes on a fretboard?

thanks

isekerx
01-09-2006, 05:11 AM
I think you should start with the pentatonic and blues scales... And the next step is major and minor scales... Also use your time to find out how to derive pentatonic scales from major and minor scales.

Maybe you can take a look at:
http://www.myguitarworkshop.com/Theory/Guitar_Pentatonic_Scales/Guitar-Pentatonic-Scales.htm

Rodney Crutcher
01-09-2006, 02:05 PM
I agree with learning the Major and Minor scales, all forms of the minor scales. Harmonic..Melodic..etc.. It would be benificial in learning the Diminished Scale and I would also practice the Chromatic scale. I would also have an understanding of the Diatonic Harmonies. For example I would record this Diatonic Progression and play the scales across them as they go by. I..ii..iii.IV..V..vi.vii(Half Dim) Which equals out to be in the key of C
C(Major) D(minor) E(minor) F(Major) G(Dominant) A(minor) B(Half Diminished)
I think this would get you set up for learning and understanding the modes.
I feel this helps you get a better feel and ear development also, when you can hear the scales played across a chord progression, I hope in some small way this is helpful to you!!

16andlifetogo
01-10-2006, 04:59 PM
thanks alot for your input guys! i appreacate it :)

Fyl
01-10-2006, 07:47 PM
I have some exercizes and the timing is in 9/8 7/8... what do I set the mertronome to ? is there a formula for other timings ?

Fyl
01-10-2006, 07:48 PM
I have some finger exercises and the timing is in 9/8 7/8... what do I set the mertronome to ? is there a formula for other timings ?