Needs info for shredding

[zoran the dark]

ej you guy's, I'm new here and I would like to have some information about good shred techniques. Untill now, I can only play speed licks with 2 fingers, like Vai does on For the love of God. but I don't know how I can play easier with 3 and even 4 fingers. :(

please, any information is helpfull

:cool:

[Superhuman]

Check out Speed Kills by Michael Angelo Battio, it's the instructional dvd for the track No Boundaries and contains just about every technique needed to be an amazing guitarist. If you havent heard it already, download No Boundaries Mp3 from ww.angelo.com

Also, check out www.chopsfromhell.com
Guys that you should consider from that site are Rusty Cooley (for speed and complex runs) and Theodore Ziras (for the best sounding arpeggios sequences anywhere).

[Kevin Taylor]

Try using the search feature:

http://www.guitartricks.com/search.php?input=shred&submit=%A0++go


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[CW14]

Steer clear of Fransesco Fareri... :o

[Superhuman]

Steer clear of Fransesco Fareri... :o

Amen to that!!!!!

[zoran the dark]

so now I have another problem. most of al the cruel shred techniques requier a Floyd Rose :rolleyes: :( . I don't have one, and Í'm looking for one, but most of them are to expensive or I don't agree with the neck or the looks. I have a tremelo-guitar but it detunes al the time.

any ideas?

BTW, I watched this Micheal Angelo and it did help me a bit. thanks you guys :)

[Superhuman]

so now I have another problem. most of al the cruel shred techniques requier a Floyd Rose :rolleyes: :( . I don't have one, and Í'm looking for one, but most of them are to expensive or I don't agree with the neck or the looks. I have a tremelo-guitar but it detunes al the time.

any ideas?

BTW, I watched this Micheal Angelo and it did help me a bit. thanks you guys :)

Man there are so few techniques that require use of the trem! Just stick with what you 've got for the time being and concentrate on mastering the basics. I've been playing a long time and I still find myself improving on the basic 123 1234 exercises. The single most important piece of advice when learning to 'shred' is to have clean accurate picking. The best advice on the Michael Angelo dvd is to pick up and down on one note as fast as you can. This is your current picking max. No matter what you play you should use exactly the same wrist position and plectrum handling as you do for your picking max. Most guys learn to play slowly and then everything falls apart when they speed up, that's because their technique changes as they increase the speed. This should not happen, keep the same technique no matter what the pace is.
I don't really subscribe to learning other guys solos but i do recommend listening to all the really great speed players like Jason Becker, Vinnie Moore, Theodore Ziras and Rusty Cooley etc. You'll get ideas from listening to those guys and check out the lessons on their websites. A shred run is just a collection of notes that makes a logical pattern. Once you know the scale and key all you have to do is experiment with note placements. Play slowly when you work out your solos. Imagine the music before you sit down to the guitar, then try working out what is in your head - this will help you to get away from playing the typical up down scalar stuff that 99% of guitarists do.
Also, forget sweep picking untill you have alternate picking licked, it will just frustrate you. It's the most difficult technique on the guitar in my opinion and it tales a long time to master. I'm not trying to preach, just offering some advice gained from years of playing, making mistakes, wasting time and then finally getting hold of technique. Best of luck!

[silentmusic]

Yep thats all great advice and remember take it slow becoming a shredder can lead to injury as it takes a lot of practice so its best to warm up first!!

[zoran the dark]

Man there are so few techniques that require use of the trem! Just stick with what you 've got for the time being and concentrate on mastering the basics. I've been playing a long time and I still find myself improving on the basic 123 1234 exercises. The single most important piece of advice when learning to 'shred' is to have clean accurate picking. The best advice on the Michael Angelo dvd is to pick up and down on one note as fast as you can. This is your current picking max. No matter what you play you should use exactly the same wrist position and plectrum handling as you do for your picking max. Most guys learn to play slowly and then everything falls apart when they speed up, that's because their technique changes as they increase the speed. This should not happen, keep the same technique no matter what the pace is.
I don't really subscribe to learning other guys solos but i do recommend listening to all the really great speed players like Jason Becker, Vinnie Moore, Theodore Ziras and Rusty Cooley etc. You'll get ideas from listening to those guys and check out the lessons on their websites. A shred run is just a collection of notes that makes a logical pattern. Once you know the scale and key all you have to do is experiment with note placements. Play slowly when you work out your solos. Imagine the music before you sit down to the guitar, then try working out what is in your head - this will help you to get away from playing the typical up down scalar stuff that 99% of guitarists do.
Also, forget sweep picking untill you have alternate picking licked, it will just frustrate you. It's the most difficult technique on the guitar in my opinion and it tales a long time to master. I'm not trying to preach, just offering some advice gained from years of playing, making mistakes, wasting time and then finally getting hold of technique. Best of luck!

dude, you were right. :)

I've seen Micheal angelo and rusty and looked at his picking hand. they mute the strings they don't use and play very close to their bridge. I've tried it and it works.

thanks again, I really ow you guys

[hunter1801]

How would you go about muting the strings you dont use? :confused:

[Kevin Taylor]

It's a combination of using the left and right hands that has to be learned over time. Basically, you have to be aware of any extra noises that the strings are making, and use any part of your hands that are free, to mute them. For instance when you bend a note, you also use your pinky and thumb of the left hand to mute the other strings.

Once I get my video lessons up and running I'll be doing a tutorial on this kinda stuff. You might also check some of the other instructors cause I'm sure somebody's already done lessons on this.

[zoran the dark]

It's a combination of using the left and right hands that has to be learned over time. Basically, you have to be aware of any extra noises that the strings are making, and use any part of your hands that are free, to mute them. For instance when you bend a note, you also use your pinky and thumb of the left hand to mute the other strings.

Once I get my video lessons up and running I'll be doing a tutorial on this kinda stuff. You might also check some of the other instructors cause I'm sure somebody's already done lessons on this.

But lately I have a Big Problem :eek:

COLD HANDS!!!!!!!!!!!!

Help me!!!!!!!!!!!!

[Kevin Taylor]

Hand warmers....buy a box of em. Better than running your hands under warm water cause it doesn't soak your skin.

[zoran the dark]

[QUOTE=schmange]

well, it's winter right now in Holland :D . so when I get outside without clove's they stay cold for a long time, but that's because my mom doesn't want to put on the heatingapparatus. #@!¿()_+(^# :mad:

when it's on it's okay, but my guitar hangs a bit to low. but I can't find the right position with my playing hand. because it's zo low, I have to play like Slash, with my thum over my neck. but my teacher says I have to put it behind my neck. it does make sense, and I can play in the way he says, but when I stop, my thum clicks back and hurts al the time. but it is slowing down my speed if I set my hand just like Slash.

If I only could higher my guitar a bit, just a centimeter or 2, it would make the difference, the problem is, I'm a bit small. and I have stopt growing.....
damn. and my strap is set on it's max, It's a leather strap with already positionhights, and I'm running out of money.

I hate winters :mad:

[alucard0941]

Hand warmers....buy a box of em. Better than running your hands under warm water cause it doesn't soak your skin.
what are hand warmers?

[Kevin Taylor]

They're chemically activated pads. You take em out of the plastic and they warm up. You can keep a couple in your pockets or whatever.

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[alucard0941]

woah, thats an awesome invention.

they kinda look like condoms.. :p