View Full Version : The first shredder
konman
10-13-2005, 01:14 AM
So, who was the first shredder -- I am not talking about fast guitar playing, like in flamenco -- no, I am talking about the real deal. So, let's find out THE father or the first hero of shred! (Please, include year, album, song).
PRSplaya
10-13-2005, 08:26 AM
I think that would be hard to say, since "shredding", just like everything else, progressively evolved from other styles into what it is today.
I'd say Nicoli Paganini, the violinist....He was the worlds first "shredder" in my opinion and others opinions.
Yngwie Malmsteen plays a lot of Paganni.
And also, Eugene's Trick Bag that Steve Vai played in Crossroads is basically one of Paganini's Caprices, the 5th I think.....someone correct me if I'm wrong here.
alucard0941
10-13-2005, 06:19 PM
Post above me are totally true
But I think the first shredder on Electric guitar might be Van Halen
1978, Van Halen 1, most of the tracks
Superhuman
10-13-2005, 06:38 PM
In terms of the neo-classical influence, I would say Jason Becker or maybe Randy Rhoads. As far as pure shred goes, Jason Becker would be the first of the modern day players in my opinion, then again he got his influences from guys like Ritchie Blackmore and other completely unshred related players... he also said he was influenced by early Vai and Van Halen but I would'nt categorise either of them as shred.. fast as hell maybe but not "shred".
If you want to talk about the shredders of yore, yeah Paganini was one, as was Tchaikovsky, Bach (main influence for modern day "Bach 'n Roll") and of course the ultimate shredder Franz Lizst (check him out if you want to hear an insane amount of notes per second in a very musical context)
Rsam16
01-11-2006, 09:16 PM
I think probably one of the first Electric guitar Shredding out there was Jimmy Page's soloing on Heartbreaker, Led Zeppelin II,1969. It's nothing to write home about these days(Heck, I learned it in about 10 minutes). But in '69 I bet it had a lot of guitarists going :eek: OMG... How the Hell does he do that?
Even Eddie van Halen said that song was a big inspiration to him and helped him develop his Finger tapping technique.
Lordathestrings
01-11-2006, 10:10 PM
Too easy! And you guys should know better.
On electric guitar:
Les Paul.
bigbuda
01-11-2006, 10:13 PM
Probably some kid in india playing a Sitar about 200 years ago. His parents were like *No, No, that's not how you play dat* and he just shrugs and keep shreddin. :D
alucard0941
01-15-2006, 03:23 PM
Probably some kid in india playing a Sitar about 200 years ago. His parents were like *No, No, that's not how you play dat* and he just shrugs and keep shreddin. :D
im that kid... :(
bigbuda
01-15-2006, 04:16 PM
im that kid... :(
So tell me, what does it take to extend your lifespan to over 200 years. :D
Dante7978
01-15-2006, 05:51 PM
So tell me, what does it take to extend your lifespan to over 200 years. :D
He meant that he was that re-incarnated kid :p
bigbuda
01-15-2006, 11:42 PM
He meant that he was that re-incarnated kid :p
Oh, I get it now..... :rolleyes:
alucard0941
01-16-2006, 07:26 PM
So tell me, what does it take to extend your lifespan to over 200 years. :D
yea man, my uncle was Gandhi in his last life.
Jolly McJollyson
01-16-2006, 07:38 PM
In terms of the neo-classical influence, I would say Jason Becker or maybe Randy Rhoads. As far as pure shred goes, Jason Becker would be the first of the modern day players in my opinion, then again he got his influences from guys like Ritchie Blackmore and other completely unshred related players... he also said he was influenced by early Vai and Van Halen but I would'nt categorise either of them as shred.. fast as hell maybe but not "shred".
If you want to talk about the shredders of yore, yeah Paganini was one, as was Tchaikovsky, Bach (main influence for modern day "Bach 'n Roll") and of course the ultimate shredder Franz Lizst (check him out if you want to hear an insane amount of notes per second in a very musical context)
Yeah, umm, Bach's music, that of the baroque era, tended to favor compositional integrity over instrumental flambouyancy. Other than Paganini, I don't think that list really fits...except Franz Liszt in some ways. However, his themes are certainly more memorable than most modern-day shredders.
elklandercc
01-16-2006, 09:12 PM
"Ahhhhh, Bach." Can anyone geuss what famous,older TV show that was from. Hint: hospital
Lordathestrings
01-16-2006, 09:49 PM
"Ahhhhh, Bach." Can anyone geuss what famous,older TV show that was from. Hint: hospital
A sadly misguided 'Radar' O'Reilly, being (badly) advised by "Hawkeye' Pierce on how to impress a nurse who enjoyed classical music.
bigbuda
01-17-2006, 01:27 AM
A sadly misguided 'Radar' O'Reilly, being (badly) advised by "Hawkeye' Pierce on how to impress a nurse who enjoyed classical music.
God I love MASH~ :)
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