Terrifying Dream

[Akira]

A few nights ago a had a terrifying dream, like no other before. I'm interested in knowing what everyone can make of it.

Being as I can't be bothered to re-type it all, here is the entry about it from my online journal:

"So, that dream I had a few nights ago.

I get into bed at about mid-night, i'm really tired, so I expect to get to bed fairly quickly, instead I lay there for ages getting frustrated as i'm not getting to sleep and I have to be up early for College. Eventually I get sick of this, so I get out of bed and put the light on to see what time it is; it's 2:20am. I sit about for 5 minutes before attempting again to get some sleep. I turn the light out and climb into bed. Once I get on to my bed and lie down on my right side, my body starts shaking, like a shiver down your spine but this was all over. It felt like I was being mildy electrocuted. I was fearing something, I wasn't in fear of the shaking, I was in fear of something else, I didn't know what. This then stops, and then happens again 5 minutes later. Strangely enough, even though at the time I felt really scared, after it happens I quickly disregard it.

And so then I fall asleep, and eventually the dream begins.

Like so:

I'm in my room, in my bed, on my right side (like I was when I got into bed), and I sense something is in my room, something evil that wants to take me away/harm me. Everything in my room in the dream is picture perfect to how it is in real life. I want to get out my room, really quickly, so I rush out of bed and run to the door, I go to turn the handle, and for some reason, i'm back in bed, except the evil presense is greater, and so is my fear. I go to do the same as I did before; same happens. I do this two more times, each time I feel even more fearful. What made it so scary was that a.) it was in my room, which is my "safe place", the fact that something was invading my "safe place" was disnerving. And b.) The dream was REALLY vivid. Everything was clear and in it's place. Throughout the dream I was thinking "is this real, or is it a dream?" I wanted to fly away as I normally do in bad situations in my dreams (i'm a lucid dreamer), but I couldn't, some force was stopping me.

I may add at this point that whatever was in my room remained still whilst I tryed to get out, as if silently mocking my attempts to escape with a knowledge that I would never get out.

And so I go to try the door handle once more, and I end up back in bed, yet again. I then wake up, and i'm paralysed. I still can sense something in the room, something really evil that wanted to take me away or harm me. Although the most I get to see due to my narrow range of vision (i'm paralysed, layed on my right side) is shadows moving, I sense that whatever was in my room was not male or female, I don't know whether it was even human. Anyway, so, i'm paralysed, and i'm scared, no, not scared, i'm terrified. It was the most terrified I had ever felt, ever, I literally feared for my life. I was so certain something was in my room, stood there watching, staring at me whilst I lay there in bed unable to move. I tried to scream, and nothing happened; the most I achieved was a low murmor. I try my hardest to move but I just couldn't, all along what ever was in my room stood there and watched.

Intense fear of something evil in the room + being paralysed = holy **** :|

After what felt like an eternity, I am able to move my arm, then most of my body is able to function. I roll over and lay there, still afraid, I feel compelled to get up but can't, the sense of evil is weaker, yet I still feel something around. My eyes start feeling heavy, yet I try my hardest to stay awake as I feel that if I fall asleep, whatever was in my room will come back. Eventually I feel safe enough (well, not really) to get up. I get out of bed quicker than I ever have before; I miss most of the steps just trying to get to the light switch.

I turn the light on, and look around my room from the spot I am standing, nothing is there. The time is 2:40am. I feel so in shock that I sit down on my PC chair and just do nothing for 5 minutes. I consider playing guitar (for some reason), but decide i'd rather get out of my room. I turn towards the door when I sense something evil outside my bedroom door, except there's two of whatever it is. I decide to open the door anyway; nothing was there. I look down the hallway, nothing.

The whole experience had **** me up so bad that I decided to grab my quilt and pillow, and go sleep on the floor in my mums room. Yes, it seems silly, but it felt like the only place that was safe; I sure as hell wasn't going to go back to sleep in my room. I may add that I have never ever gone to my mums room to sleep in there after a nightmare. Never. Not even when I was a little kid. It was really that terrifying.

I'm now sleeping with my door open and the hallway light on. I hope I have a few lucid flying dreams to make up for this, they're fun. Anyone else a lucid dreamer? It took me a while to learn to run super fast, and to fly (although I need to work on my landings). I want to learn to do more "super human" stuff in lucid dreams.

But anyway, that was "the dream" I mentioned a few posts earlier. I guess I should go attempt to get some sleep soon..."

Sorry about the long post, i'm just interested in knowing what you guys make of it. Anyone experienced anything similar? I'm finding getting into bed hard as a result of this dream. :o

[Cryptic Excretions]

Well **** dude... All I can say is you're not alone. Seems like most of the dreams I have these days are filled with morbid visions that would make any church going citizen think they were posessed by satan himself. I don't remember exactly what happened in most of them, but I do remember still life shots that have been lingering and to say the least I doubt I'd be able to handle them if I wasn't me. As far as the fear goes, I've gotten that feeling before. Something just doesn't seem right, but no amount of logic can explain it because there's nothing tangible there. I can say that it's worse to develop that fear when you live alone like I do, because you're actually alone. If anything actually wanted to take you away in that case, it probably could. But I'm still here so I guess it's never wanted me that bad. I dunno, I partially look forward to nightmares as well as fun dreams. Nightmares can often be the more memorable ones and the intense dose of fear is quite a rush. Of course I'll wake up scared ****less, but after it's all said and done no one's actually hurt. So to me it's like watching a good horror movie... or compared to what's out these days an actual horror movie. I doubt anything above is all that reassuring or comforting, but it's all I've got.

[Kevin Taylor]

> I tried to scream, and nothing happened; the most I achieved was a low
> murmor. I try my hardest to move but I just couldn't, all along what
> ever was in my room stood there and watched.
>
> Intense fear of something evil in the room + being paralysed = holy ****
> :|

There's actually a medical explanation for it called sleep paralysis.
I used to get it all the time when I was younger, especially if I forced myself to fall asleep. You half wake up but you can't move. You're wide awake and aware of everything, but your body is still asleep and it feels like there's something evil in the room with you, moving around.
The way it was explained to me is that when you go to sleep, your body shuts off the section of your brain that controls movement. (so you don't thrash around while you're dreaming.) What's happening is you wake up, but not quite enough to turn the controls back on. So you're wide awake and your body is still asleep.
Never did get an explanation for the evil feeling though.

Look around on the net, there's lots of stuff about it & how some people think it's alien abductions etc..

The Terror of Sleep Paralysis
Have you ever awakened to find yourself paralyzed?† Have you sensed an evil presence in the room?† Alien abduction?† Psychic attack?† It's probably an episode of hallucinogenic sleep paralysis.

http://sleepdisorders.about.com/cs/hallucinations/a/terrorparalysis.htm

[Cryptic Excretions]

Aren't the studies of the human brain fascinating? I love it.

[Jolly McJollyson]

I had a dream a couple nights ago about a zombie attack...shudder

[Hammurabi]

Sissy :P

How religious are you?

[Leedogg]

I had a dream a couple nights ago about a zombie attack...shudder


Somehow I don't think you're joking. :D

[scarface84]

There's actually a medical explanation for it called sleep paralysis.





This happens to me atleast once a week, not only do i hallucinate sometimes, but i hear a really loud sound it's almost like "white noise" if you know what i mean. btw, i'm a sleepwalker, i've been sleepwalking since kindergarden. I think i win the "most ****ed up person" -contest in here, right? :p

Akira, i haven't tried lucid dreaming in a while, but i remember it being difficult as hell, because everytime i realized it was a lucid dream, i woke up :o

[Meta]

i have sleep paralysis fairly often its a scary feeling sometimes i'll wake up and i can see my self laying in bed but i feel like i am not breathing....but i know i am? like it doesnt matter that im not breathing.

i wont be able to move and i everything around me is like one dark shadow,They're Very terrifying.

[Meta]

I think i win the "most ****ed up person" -contest in here, right? :p




nope sorry you get 2nd cause that award goes to jolly =p

[Poontang_clan]

i had some weird **** happen one time and i just woke up it was like 4 in the morning i dont know why i did but my phone was charging and then i heard it turn on so i thoyught wtf theres someone in the room they want to take me and kill me i wasnt exactly paralyzed i just was totally still in fear of being noticed by someone but sometimes when i moved a little bit i heard a beep so i was ****in freaked out so i finally worked up the courage to get up about 20 or so minutes later it turns out my bed has wheels and the outlet the phone was connected towas righnt next to it so if i moved a little it would unplug or plug in again so the first time i must have unpluged it and pluged it in so it would turn on but that stange beeping was the phone unplugging and plugging because it makes a beep so you know its plugged in. i didn't know the sound because it was a new phone and when i charged it, it was always off so it didn't make that sound. true story. i was so scared i thoughti was gonna die that night

BTW is there any way that you can become a lucid dreamer?

[Akira]

I read a bunch of stuff on it last night, and it does indeed appear to be an episode of the fore mentioned Sleep Paralysis. The feeling that something was in the room was really strong; if I was ever so sure of anyone being in my room it was at that moment. I'm sceptical about the whole alien abduction or demon posession thing, although at one point I did think I was going to abducted by something.

Hammurabi: i'm an atheist. Although do not be fooled into thinking that i'm not spiritual.

Meta: isn't what you described an Out-of-body-experience? Could you see yourself lieing in bed from another perspective? Or have I just interpretted what you said wrongly? :p

Apparantly one of the ways to escape Sleep Paralysis is to have an OBE. This is meant to be easier for lucid dreamers; I might see if it's possible if I ever get SP again.

And the lucid dreaming questions. The first time a went lucid I don't really know how it happened, I just realised I was in a dream and that what I saw around me was constructed by my mind and was of no real threat (I was in a mild nightmare). The next time I went lucid, something was chasing me in my dream, so I thought "i'll fly away", I started running, did a few jumps, then eventually took off, although the flight was really shakey, I landed and woke up. Over the next few lucid dreams I learnt to fly properly; lucid flying dreams are really really really fun. I just wished they happened more often. :(

Apparantly one of the best ways to start lucid dreaming is to develop good dream recall. This allows you to recognise the qualities of a dream and what makes it different to reality, which is key in becoming lucid in a dream.

I read up on some stuff on how to stay lucid once you realise you are. Apparantly spinning round just before the dream is going to end (when everything starts going hazy etc) is a good way to stay in the dream, i'm not quite sure how this works though.

[kingdavid]

I also get into those awake-but-can't-do-nothing situations. I start by checking that I'm breathing, and once I establish that that is happening, then I somehow force myself to REALLY wake up. Usually works.
How come that whenever you get from a really nice dream (like having sex with someone you really fancy) it's impossible to get back into it, but when you wake up from a nightmare, you keep SLIPPING BACK INTO IT,and it's a struggle not to fall back?

[Jolly McJollyson]

Somehow I don't think you're joking. :D
I'm actually not...it was pretty scary.

[Jolly McJollyson]

IHammurabi: i'm an atheist. Although do not be fooled into thinking that i'm not spiritual.

And the lucid dreaming questions. The first time a went lucid I don't really know how it happened, I just realised I was in a dream and that what I saw around me was constructed by my mind and was of no real threat (I was in a mild nightmare). The next time I went lucid, something was chasing me in my dream, so I thought "i'll fly away", I started running, did a few jumps, then eventually took off, although the flight was really shakey, I landed and woke up. Over the next few lucid dreams I learnt to fly properly; lucid flying dreams are really really really fun. I just wished they happened more often. :(
So you're agnostic?

I LOVE me some lucid dreams...I used to have them more often when I was younger...and yeah, what's teh deal with having to take a couple jumps before you can fly in a dream? That happens to me too...

[Akira]

So you're agnostic?

I LOVE me some lucid dreams...I used to have them more often when I was younger...and yeah, what's teh deal with having to take a couple jumps before you can fly in a dream? That happens to me too...

I do not believe in the concept of God at all.

And I guess the jumps thing is to get some momentum. :p

[Jolly McJollyson]

And I guess the jumps thing is to get some momentum. :p
I think so too, I'm just surprised that we both do it.

[Akira]

I think so too, I'm just surprised that we both do it.

It might be a common thing, there's only so many ways to get off the ground. :p

My landings suck though, I need to work on them. One time I went to land on top of a building, and instead I bounced off the side of it.

[Jolly McJollyson]

It might be a common thing, there's only so many ways to get off the ground. :p

My landings suck though, I need to work on them. One time I went to land on top of a building, and instead I bounced off the side of it.
I'm a landing machine, although sometimes I have to land a little early...

[Akira]

I'm a landing machine, although sometimes I have to land a little early...

Flying rocks non-the-less.

[killerqueen]

i wake up every day to the sound of my own screams... is this unusual??

[crazywolf]

i wake up every day to the sound of my own screams... is this unusual??
those aren't your screams, they are Elvis's.

I love my lucid dreams. I wish I would have more of them. Can anyone else do a back flip while flying. Those are barrel rolles are a lot of fun.

[Andrew Sa]

I am currently too lazy to read this whole thread...,but I am sure I have an oppinion on what ever its all about...so just throwing in my two cents.

[hunter60]

I guess the interpretation depends on whether or not you are a Freudian or not. It's an accepted theory that all dreams, lucid or not, stem from underlying psychological issues. Something on the mind maybe? I know that when I went through my divorce, I had the strangest, most disconnected dreams I've ever had. And there was almost always an evil presence in them. Of course, when joking about them, I always said that it was the presence of my ex but....well, gallows humor and all that.
There is a lot of truth and empirical evidence to back up sleep paralysis. Happens to me a good bit too. Zen philosophy places a lot of emphasis on dream interpretation and the control of ones dreams (lucid dreaming) as they feel that there is a strong connection between the alert mind, the sub-concious, body and spirit. When one aspect is out of sorts a bit, it usually means that there is something out of line.
Again, it depends on how you choose to view it.
Biblical scholars will remind you that in the Old Testament, God spoke to his prophets through dreams as well.
As a long time practioner of the martial arts, I can tell you that the mind is clearly the most powerful and unknown organ in the human body. When you start to practice meditation before going to sleep, you can really plug in your mind and basically control your dreams.
Sorry. Just a fascinating topic and one that I can go on and on and on about...

Something to think about. :)

[Kutzki]

hey guys i was reading these threads and you guys all seem to know alot about just medical things in general. this is probably cus you guys are doctors or maybe you all know stuff but whatever the case i was wondering if this happens to anyone else. i hear this like high pitched sound in my head. it goes away if i just keep calm. well any help would be great. thanks guys :rolleyes:

[Kevin Taylor]

Well, it's either psychic energy you're picking up in the form of electrical brain waves from someone who's on the same frequency as you, or it's tinnitus.
If it's psychic, kewl. Figure out who it's coming from and what it signifies and use it to your advantage.
If it's tinnitus, yer screwed. Tinnitus happens if you've been subjected to a loud sound either suddenly or over a prolonged period. It's a ringing in the ears that never goes away. Sorta like the ringing you get after going to a loud concert, except it never goes away.

[Leedogg]

Well, it's either psychic energy you're picking up in the form of electrical brain waves from someone who's on the same frequency as you, or it's tinnitus.
If it's psychic, kewl. Figure out who it's coming from and what it signifies and use it to your advantage.
If it's tinnitus, yer screwed. Tinnitus happens if you've been subjected to a loud sound either suddenly or over a prolonged period. It's a ringing in the ears that never goes away. Sorta like the ringing you get after going to a loud concert, except it never goes away.

Tinnitus scares the bajesus out of me. I went to a Vai concert in March and my ears were ringing for like 3 hours after the show. I hope that doesn't come back to haunt me. Especially because I'm going to see Mötley Crüe in September.

[Kevin Taylor]

Yeah, same here. I was doing some recording about a year ago & using headphones to monitor a really raunchy lead. I damaged my hearing so bad that I almost lost my hearing. It was real scary cause I coudn't even hear things like your own fingers rubbing together or the sound of papers shuffling around on my desk.It's real freaky when you're walking around and can't even hear your own footsteps. It lasted over a week so it scared the crap outa me cause I thought it was permanent.

[Akira]

Yeah, same here. I was doing some recording about a year ago & using headphones to monitor a really raunchy lead. I damaged my hearing so bad that I almost lost my hearing. It was real scary cause I coudn't even hear things like your own fingers rubbing together or the sound of papers shuffling around on my desk.It's real freaky when you're walking around and can't even hear your own footsteps. It lasted over a week so it scared the crap outa me cause I thought it was permanent.

Now that does sound scary! The longest i've ever had ringing in my ears was for a few days.

[Andrew Sa]

Yeah, I am also kinda worried about my hearing...I went to lots and lots of gigs in South Africa, without any proper hearing protection(occasionally I wore those foam ones like they give you on planes), but now I have propper earplugs made for musicians...and the sound when watching bands is amazing...they actually attentuate the sounds rather than block them out...almost like a small eq in your head...live bands sound so much better, because alot of that high end screech is cut out.
I am planing to get those molded silicone earplugs made, but they require a trip to a specialist to take a mould of your ear and all...they are hellishly expensive(about 200pounds) but I figure its worth it.

[Akira]

I am planing to get those molded silicone earplugs made, but they require a trip to a specialist to take a mould of your ear and all...they are hellishly expensive(about 200pounds) but I figure its worth it.

£200?! :eek:

[hunter60]

Just throwing my two cents in here. Tinnitus can also be caused by allergies. If you have it or think you do, check with an Ear, Nose and Throat specialist. If it is allergies and you can avoid the allergen and take the specified medication, it can be controlled. If the tinnintus is caused by trauma or damage to the aural nerves, canal or ear drum it might be tougher to come up with a way to deal with it.

Just a thought. But I do want to add that any hearing problems should be dealt with quickly and with the aid of a professional. The ears, much like the eyes, will wear over time. Since everyone here is a music lover and/or a musician, you know how important your hearing is to what you love to do.

[Meta]

"Meta: isn't what you described an Out-of-body-experience? Could you see yourself lieing in bed from another perspective? Or have I just interpretted what you said wrongly? :p "[1]

"Apparantly one of the ways to escape Sleep Paralysis is to have an OBE. This is meant to be easier for lucid dreamers; I might see if it's possible if I ever get SP again."[2]





[1]
yes that's what happend, according to research what we typically call and OBE is typically sleep paralysis related.

[2]i've learned now how to wake my self up [during one of these [OBE type dreams] it takes a few seconds but it typically works

[Akira]

[1]
yes that's what happend, according to research what we typically call and OBE is typically sleep paralysis related.

[2]i've learned now how to wake my self up [during one of these [OBE type dreams] it takes a few seconds but it typically works

Ahh, so what was it like to have an OBE?

[Meta]

Ahh, so what was it like to have an OBE?

........intresting to say the least i could'nt do anything because all i was thinking was man.....i don't feel like i can breathe and i was staring at my self.... i remember specificaly seeing Just me and the Couch i was asleep on and everything around was in a black shadow ....it was really intresting but i was trying to wake up cause feeling of no breathing was very terrifying.

[Akira]

........intresting to say the least i could'nt do anything because all i was thinking was man.....i don't feel like i can breathe and i was staring at my self.... i remember specificaly seeing Just me and the Couch i was asleep on and everything around was in a black shadow ....it was really intresting but i was trying to wake up cause feeling of no breathing was very terrifying.

Hmm, sounds interesting indeed.

[mike&theblues]

I went through a period of sleep paralysis awhile ago, again during very real feeling nightmares, the main diffrence being mine actually felt like something was sitting on top of me pushing down on my chest hard enough so that I was struggling to breathe and therefore i was totatally incapable of moving.

Thankfully this only lasted about 1 month and occured about 5 times then just as suddenly as it started it stopped.

[Akira]

I went through a period of sleep paralysis awhile ago, again during very real feeling nightmares, the main diffrence being mine actually felt like something was sitting on top of me pushing down on my chest hard enough so that I was struggling to breathe and therefore i was totatally incapable of moving.

I've read up on the thing with the chest restrictions.

Here: *click* (http://watarts.uwaterloo.ca/~acheyne/incubus.html)

[Akira]

For the sake of revival.

I thought'd it'd be interesting to discuss lucid dreaming etc again, being as we've had some new members since I made this thread (that year went quick...).

Last night I had a dream, a reoccuring one. I'll excerpt the rest from my dream diary (yes, I now keep one).

"This dream has happened before about a year and a half ago, except now it makes so much more sense. In the original dream, I was running with someone, a female, across miles and miles of countryside, jumping over big trenches to get from field to field. We were running away from something, not quite sure what it was but we needed to get away. She was surer of where we were going than I was, and I lacked confidence compared to her in jumping over the huge trenches, eventually we got to a big river and we had to stop, to our right there was a farm house of some sort with other small houses hear it, there was a big road leading out from it as well, so we go there, all I remember after that was something bad happening and that was it. I never found out who the girl was.

Anyway, this time, exactly the same scenario, except this time I know what to do, I jump across all the trenches with utmost confidence, and I know who the girl is, it’s <insert different name> "Jane" from my A2 Critical Thinking class. We get across all the trenches, (even having to swing across one of them on these big ropes) and we get to the river, Jane says we should go to the farm house complex thing, exactly the same as last time. At this point, I turn lucid, I tell her that we shouldn’t as last time it spelt disaster and we can escape another way. I grab her hand, and begin flying (hoorar!) She seems nervous at first, so I start explaining to her how I manage to fly, we then start going across a very large lake type thingy, flying very close to the water. This was a very enjoyable experience (as flying always is) and we eventually get away from whatever was chasing us. We land near some buildings where some people who we know are staying (ironically in real life I don’t know who they were). We get in, and I am knackered, so I go to bed, in this really tiny room, I decide to sleep on the floor next to the bed instead of actually in the bed. Then I wake up.

What concerns me is that the female in the two dreams was exactly the same person, just in the first one I didn’t know who she was, and in the second one I did. The dreams were approx 1 and a half years apart, so how did Jane get into my dream before I even knew who she was? There’s some sort of fatalistic meaning behind this dream; it could perhaps show there is some sort of predetermined path in our lives and sometimes our dreams show us people we are going to meet, or events that are going to take place before they even happen (not necessarily flying over ponds and shiz though), are some dreams a way of seeing in to the future? Albeit in bizarre circumstances. The amount of fatalistic connotations the dream has is bewildering, and I guess some day it’ll sort itself out into a true line of events that will shape my life. So far these two dreams have shown me that I would meet a person called Jane, which I did, even though we never talked much at all. So I guess there is some sort of purpose behind all of this. What else could my dreams show me; what have they shown me so far that I've not yet realised?

Very interesting indeed."

Yup.

[jeffhx]

i read ur first post akira..tho i agree it might be sleep paralysis...and i have experienced them many times...just that one thing still boggles my mind...couple yrs ago before i moved to australia i had another 'attack'...strangely enough tho...why did i wake up to red marks on my wrists?
grab marks...but that happened only once the other times are just normal ones...

[6strngs_2hmbkrs]

why can't I have dreams like these?

seriously though, I rarely remember my dreams, in fact, I rarely dream. but every now and then, I'll just be going about my normal day when all of a sudden, I'll have to stop dead and be like "woah, I've seen this exact same scenario play out before..." and I realize I'd seen it in a dream. it'll only be like a split second occurance, but it's enough to get my attention.

this seems really strange that you saw a person in a dream you hadn't met yet. maybe someday soon you'll meet those other people in your dream that you apparently knew, but in reality you don't. I can't find any logical reasoning in any of this though.

[Akira]

why can't I have dreams like these?

seriously though, I rarely remember my dreams, in fact, I rarely dream. but every now and then, I'll just be going about my normal day when all of a sudden, I'll have to stop dead and be like "woah, I've seen this exact same scenario play out before..." and I realize I'd seen it in a dream. it'll only be like a split second occurance, but it's enough to get my attention.

this seems really strange that you saw a person in a dream you hadn't met yet. maybe someday soon you'll meet those other people in your dream that you apparently knew, but in reality you don't. I can't find any logical reasoning in any of this though.

I find dreams fascinating, which is why I keep a dream diary. I'm trying to find patterns in my dreams. It seems 9 times out of 10 i'm trying to escape something in my dreams, but at the same time, I have occurances in my dreams which are incredibly fun (like turning lucid and flying).

And sometimes I just have really random messed up dreams.

Like last night, I dreamt that I met David Coulthard and Michael Schumacher (F1 Drivers) and I dreamt that I went to Sophie's and she'd been playing guitar secretly, she had this massive pedal board with some pedals I liked, and I kept bugging her to give me them. She had this ace sustainer pedal.

But yeah, I'm dead certain it was the same person in both of my dreams in my previous post, no doubt about it. It's been puzzling me ever since.

And yeah, I have that dejavu from a dream thing aswell, it's really weird.

If you want to remember your dreams more, you should start keeping a dream diary (do it in a word doc, quicker than writing), apparantly recalling the dreams that you have helps you to remember them in the future, or something.

Also eat cheese before you go to bed. :D

[Mark Pav]

I've had those dreams where I feel like there's something evil in the room and I can't move. It seems like I'm awake. I swore for ages that I was awake, but then I had one night where I was able to roll over while in that paralysed kinda state and when I woke up or was able to move again I found that I hadn't actually rolled over at all. So I figured that they are extremely vivid dreams--really unpleasant ones. I could be wrong, but it seemed that way for me.

The thing with nightmares (and these other freaky events) is that you're most likely to get them after a period of bad sleep. So, say you've been up late for a few nights or something, then on the next night you fall into a really deep sleep, you'll get nightmares. Bad ones. Happens to pretty much everyone. Or if you are sleeping regularly, but are deprived of deep sleep you'll get them. People get them when trying to come off sleeping pills, since sleeping pills don't allow you to get into a deep state of sleep. It makes it a lot harder to quit them when you have crazy-vivid nightmares for a week straight.

I get those dreams of future events too. The cool thing is that I can remember having the dreams sometimes. So I'll walk into a room and remember it being just like one I'd dreamed about when I was, say, 8-years old. And I dreamed of everyone in it back then. Only now I'm much older and the room is in another country with people I couldn't possibly have imagined as a kid.

In a similar vein (this is post getting long!), when I was back in junior high school I could "feel" when certain events were going to occur. I'd just have this strong premonition about it. It was never wrong.

[iiholly]

I find dreams fascinating, which is why I keep a dream diary. I'm trying to find patterns in my dreams. It seems 9 times out of 10 i'm trying to escape something in my dreams, but at the same time, I have occurances in my dreams which are incredibly fun (like turning lucid and flying).

And sometimes I just have really random messed up dreams.

Like last night, I dreamt that I met David Coulthard and Michael Schumacher (F1 Drivers) and I dreamt that I went to Sophie's and she'd been playing guitar secretly, she had this massive pedal board with some pedals I liked, and I kept bugging her to give me them. She had this ace sustainer pedal.

But yeah, I'm dead certain it was the same person in both of my dreams in my previous post, no doubt about it. It's been puzzling me ever since.

And yeah, I have that dejavu from a dream thing aswell, it's really weird.

If you want to remember your dreams more, you should start keeping a dream diary (do it in a word doc, quicker than writing), apparantly recalling the dreams that you have helps you to remember them in the future, or something.

Also eat cheese before you go to bed. :D

How do you know Jane?

Cheese and crackers are lame.

Deja vu dreams are interesting.


Is there a medical explanation for dreams where one feels like they're falling?

[earthman buck]

I keep sort of a dream diary as well, but only of the ones that really profoundly affect my emotions, or the ones I think would make good movies.

Perhaps I'll share one later on, just for kicks.

[fr3ak]

WOW. Sleep paralysis, i'm glad i'm not going insane. I've been going through the same deal for a while now. Actually believed there was some sort of entity living in my room. I try to keep an open mind when it comes to weird junk. This just happened to me two days ago. Laying on bed watching tv when all of the sudden I couldn't move or talk and yet I was still watching the tv, and of course you do feel someone or something is in there with you. Now that I think about it I once saw some sort of silloutte while having one of these sleep paralysis things it must have been a hallucination related to it. I guess the mind does play some messed up tricks on people. Anyway, found it weird that of all places and out of the blue I found this thread. New in this community and so far I found that it rocks. Ya'll keep up the good posting.

Lucid dreams freakin' rock btw.

Fr3ak

[magicninja]

Sleep paralysis has been recorded as a symptom of Alien Abductions. Just to make you guys feel better I get the same odd feeling sometimes like my body is numb and I can't move or scream or anything and it takes all me strength to snap myself out of it. No aliens yet though.

[Fret spider]

Tinnitus scares the bajesus out of me. I went to a Vai concert in March and my ears were ringing for like 3 hours after the show. I hope that doesn't come back to haunt me. Especially because I'm going to see Mötley Crüe in September.


i used to do ccf which is basically playin at bein in the army, any way we had guns (basically the same as an SA80 the british army rifle). normally i only put ear defenders on my right ear, cos thats the ear near the gun, and i want to be able to hear. it hurt a tiny bit when i shot but not much.

anyway one day we were 'defendin' a complex, and i was in a small room, about 4 meteres by 4 meters, and there was a window i was watchin out of. i saw an enemy anf i fired (we shoot blanks, basically explosive but no bullet tin the end, its lethal at about 5 meters so we are told to only shoot at people when they are far away).

but cos i was in a small room which was almost completely sealed apart from the window the echo was emmense. i couldnt hear anythin but this really really loud eeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee in my left ear for like 4 hours. it was like somone screammin as load as they could in my ear. i was scared i would be deaf in one ear, luckily i wasnt.

[Akira]

How do you know Jane?

Cheese and crackers are lame.

Deja vu dreams are interesting.


Is there a medical explanation for dreams where one feels like they're falling?

I know Jane from one of my second year classes in College. Previous to that I had only ever seen her in that dream.

Cheese and crackers are the win.

The falling thing, i've never had that, usually if I fall it's because I'm having fun in a lucid dream.

Perhaps the most lucid dream I've ever had is this:

"24.10.05 – Night after seeing Steve Vai live

Last night I had an ultra lucid dream, the most lucid i've ever had. It was to the point where I was walking around in my dream telling other dream characters that it was a dream, this confused them a lot, so I went flying for a bit. It was seriously awesome; I even jumped off some cliff whilst in the dream as I knew it couldn't hurt me. I managed to change the scenery sometimes as well, can't remember how I did that though. I tried teaching a dream character to fly, he was called Dave, but with no luck. I even knew when I was trying to wake up in real life, so I somehow stopped myself from waking up just to be lucid for that bit longer. I remember just letting myself fall through the sky for ever and ever, and then flying around through endless sky. Best lucid dream ever."

[jeffhx]

dreams are awesome...whenever i get a nightmare or anything like that i get up and start writing...and they should make more movies based on dreams...i wish my dreams were as cool as urs sean but mine are mostly abt me being killed...either shot, drowned and whatnot...

[Akira]

but mine are mostly abt me being killed...either shot, drowned and whatnot...

How very... morbid? :confused:

[6strngs_2hmbkrs]

when I do have a dream, it's never the same thing, I don't die every single time, I don't fall all the time, etc. etc. in fact, they are actually quite random. One of the few dreams I can remember, I was somehow on another planet. it was just like earth, but for some reason I recognized it as another planet. I never saw any cities or anything, I was in like a forest/meadow type of place. lots of green grass, and tons of tall green trees. anyway, while I'm there, I meet this girl. I don't remember what we talked about, but we became friends. I don't remember what happens next, but eventually I end up swimming down a river-type-thing, except the water was calm and clear, and it cuts through the middle of the forest, and I'm butt-naked. and she is standing there on the banks, just watching me. and I see her and I say something, and she says something back, and then all of a sudden I'm getting on a spaceship to go back home and she's crying cause she's gonna miss me. so I give her a hug, say good-bye, and go home.

the end.

like I said, random as anything.

[Akira]

when I do have a dream, it's never the same thing, I don't die every single time, I don't fall all the time, etc. etc. in fact, they are actually quite random. One of the few dreams I can remember, I was somehow on another planet. it was just like earth, but for some reason I recognized it as another planet. I never saw any cities or anything, I was in like a forest/meadow type of place. lots of green grass, and tons of tall green trees. anyway, while I'm there, I meet this girl. I don't remember what we talked about, but we became friends. I don't remember what happens next, but eventually I end up swimming down a river-type-thing, except the water was calm and clear, and it cuts through the middle of the forest, and I'm butt-naked. and she is standing there on the banks, just watching me. and I see her and I say something, and she says something back, and then all of a sudden I'm getting on a spaceship to go back home and she's crying cause she's gonna miss me. so I give her a hug, say good-bye, and go home.

the end.

like I said, random as anything.

Lmfao! Dude, you should have atleast given one to the hot dream girl. :p

[Fret spider]

i nearly never can remember my dreams. even if i try really hard. the best i have had was feeling happy when i woke up, so i assumed i had a good dream. the only ones i can remember are nightmares from when i was a kid. like being paralized as a crokodile slowly walked towards me.

or when this evil power took over. he killed robin hood and my parents as well as most of my friends and i was left to run away with some kids who i had to take care of. then a farmer with a shotgun found us.

or the one where another the evil power took. this tiem he turned one of my friends into a emotionless zombie thing. and let dogs with ranbies into my garden. and i once was runnin away from them a decided to hide behind a stone. which was way to small to hode behind but by the time i realised the dogs were on me.


closest thing i have had to a lucid dream was when one of my dreams changed halfway through. at first i was runnin from these aliens (like from alien versus predator). but they could also change shape into people. and they killed my parents, then someone appeared who was my mother and asked mw to come with them. but i knew it was an alien. at first i was scared, then suddenly i wasnt and i cjased the aline and it ran away in fear.


i dunno why i was suddenly all powerful but it happened

[Akira]

closest thing i have had to a lucid dream was when one of my dreams changed halfway through. at first i was runnin from these aliens (like from alien versus predator). but they could also change shape into people. and they killed my parents, then someone appeared who was my mother and asked mw to come with them. but i knew it was an alien. at first i was scared, then suddenly i wasnt and i cjased the aline and it ran away in fear.

That more than likely is a lucid dream. Usually if i'm being chased by something evil, and I turn lucid, I realise "hey, it's only a dream", so I reverse the tables, so to speak.

[bunmiadefisayo]

when I do have a dream, it's never the same thing, I don't die every single time, I don't fall all the time, etc. etc. in fact, they are actually quite random. One of the few dreams I can remember, I was somehow on another planet. it was just like earth, but for some reason I recognized it as another planet. I never saw any cities or anything, I was in like a forest/meadow type of place. lots of green grass, and tons of tall green trees. anyway, while I'm there, I meet this girl. I don't remember what we talked about, but we became friends. I don't remember what happens next, but eventually I end up swimming down a river-type-thing, except the water was calm and clear, and it cuts through the middle of the forest, and I'm butt-naked. and she is standing there on the banks, just watching me. and I see her and I say something, and she says something back, and then all of a sudden I'm getting on a spaceship to go back home and she's crying cause she's gonna miss me. so I give her a hug, say good-bye, and go home.

the end.

like I said, random as anything.

OMG i had those kinds of dreams often, especially when i was about like 12 or 13.

I'd get into all sorts of incredible adventures with HOT girls. Once it was with this arabian girl and we fought some jafar-like monster and she was captured and i rememebr yelling and promising i'd save her and, and...

"Gets warm, fuzzy feeling inside"

Now that i think about it they were just dumb teenage dreams :(. Still i wish they werent. :)

[earthman buck]

I had a couple last night.

#1-

I had apparently lost a bet with my little brother Connor, and as a result, he got my room and all my stuff. Thing is, I had absolutely no recollection of this bet, and I was convinced he was just trying to trick me out of my stuff. To make matters worse, people kept referring to the date as "Canada Day," which is the 1st of July. For a while I believed them, thinking that all my free time had disoriented me and the summer was in fact longer than I'd thought. But then I started to remember specific things, like dating papers at work as July 17th and already making a Canada Day thread here on GT. I kept trying to tell everyone that it couldn't possibly be the 1st, but no one listened to me. In a fit of frustration, I went to my room, intending to guilt Connor into giving it back.

Upon arriving, Connor took the time to point out how all my CDs had vanished and how my Jimi Hendrix and Sgt. Peppers posters had been replaced with the kind of nonsense posters they sell at Wal-Mart. At this I freaked. I grabbed him by the shirt and hurled him to the ground. I lifted up my foot and stomped on his stomach with all the force I could muster. His devilish little grin turned into a look of sincere pain, and I felt very guilty for a moment. But then I saw him kind of lurch and I could tell he had a mouthful of puke. He motioned towards my bed (I still considered it my bed) and I knew he planned to puke all over the pillow. I ran out of my room and collapsed on the living room floor, where I started crying and screaming about how Connor was ruining my stuff. I tried to get my mom and dad to intervene, but they didn't even notice I was there. They just kept on with their conversation.

At this point I heard a heave from my bedroom, and that's when I woke up.

#2-

I was walking around some park somewhere with someone who was supposedly my brother-in-law, and he started making fun of me. He wouldn't let up, so I pulled out a gun and shot him in the stomach. As he was doubled over in pain, I shot him again in the head, killing him. The weird thing was, I killed him somehow with money, specifically a dime. I think what I may have done was hold a dime against his head, then shoot him through the dime. Disturbing, I know. But there's more.

So needless to say, I went to jail. Somehow I only ended up getting a sentence of 2 years. Another weird thing was how this jail looked very similar to the tom barn (where they keep all the male turkeys) where I work. The walls were plywood, the floor was cement, it was lit by 60-watt bulbs that made everything look orange, etc. Even the 'jail cells' were similar to the pens the toms are kept in. They could easily be stepped over, which I found out later on and used to my advantage.

Anyhow, in jail I was a pretty tame prisoner. I didn't really mingle with the other inmates, nor did I really ever leave my cell. I just read and slept for the first year.

When the 6th of July rolled around, a guard came to my cell and said I had been granted some sort of parole. He said I was free to go, but he needed me to put my arms behind my back so he could cuff me and escort me to the door in that manner. I refused, but he kept on telling me to do it. I told him to go screw himself, so he left. When he came back he told me he had notified the judge of my behaviour, and now I wasn't to be released until the 19th. As soon as the guard left again, I immediately felt awful. I couldn't imagine being in prison for another 13 days, even though I had already been in for over a year and hadn't really noticed.

It was at this point I found out that the walls of the jail cells were just waist-high fences, so I gathered up my books and a couple towels I had in my cell and climbed over. I walked down the corridor to a tiny little cell in the corner, which was out of the way of everything and probably wasn't even noticeable unless you knew it was there. This cell was full of towels. So I added the towels I was carrying to the pile and made a comfy little bed. I spent the next 3 days reading, and by then I was sick of books. I pulled out a handful of change from my pocket (the same change from which I had pulled a dime and killed a man), and stared at it closely. I soon noticed that the pictures on the coins were no longer what they should have been, but instead were re-enactments of me killing my brother-in-law and Jesus telling me to repent. I stared at these coins (and cried with remorse) for the remaining 10 days of my sentence. No food, no sleep, just coin-staring. By the time they released me, I was very unstable. Almost an emotional vegetable.

At the prison gate, I was met by my dad, who was glad I was out. According to him, he was the only one. The rest of my family had shunned me. I didn't really care much, I was just glad someone was there to greet me. We took a long walk around town (whatever town this may have been) and eventually found ourselves in the same park in which I had murdered a man. I pulled out my handful of change and mentioned something about how I had just spent a year in jail and all I had as a reminder was this very handful of change. My dad insisted he should take the change in order to 'protect me from myself,' and before I knew what he was doing, he had pocketed it. I put my head on a nearby car and started to cry. He felt bad and gave me my change back.

I decided I needed to get away, so I took a train ride. I had no idea where it was going, but I didn't really care. On the way, people in the same car as me pointed and whispered. They had all read my story in the paper and couldn't believe I was out of prison already. I pulled out my handful of change and slammed it on the coffee table that was between us, then I walked to the next car.

And that's all I really remember.




I think the weirdest thing is the similarities between the dreams.

-violence to stomachs, caused by me
-a feeling of the world having turned on me
-the month of July

[iiholly]

You know you spend to much time on GT when its in your dreams.

Its weird that you know the dates in your dreams... or the "dream dates".

[Akira]

before I knew what he was doing, he had pocketed it. I put my head on a nearby car and started to cry. He felt bad and gave me my change back.

How to be a good parent, lesson #1.

[markc2005]

i can only remember a couple of dream, one was a few months ago and i dreamt i was in a old wooden house with 1 floor in the middle of nowhere i think , because i never went outside it, and the were no lights on but the were candles and oil lamps lit and it was very cluttered and dusty, and i was there sorting things out, and there was a girl there who i used to really like, and that was about all that i can remember hapening, oh and the was someother guy wondering around who i didnt know.

he other i can remember from being little and i used to play a computer game (doom, the first one) and it used to scare me alot, and at night i had nightmares that my bed was going down through the house and into doom, and i had to fight the monsters and it was really scary, i always woke up before i got to where i had died in the game

[Akira]

So last night I had another terrifying experience. Below is what I wrote in my dream diary.

26.07.06

Ok, so this night I went to bed at 3:30am, this was the first time I had decided to sleep with my bedroom door shut and in complete darkness since I had that last nightmare this time last year; I figured that the sun would be coming up in an hour so I might as well save some electricity by turning the hall light off, thus giving me no light source.

So I get into bed, lie there, and fall asleep. Now, the thing about this dream was, it was really vivid. I honestly could not tell the difference, at the time, between what was in my dream and what was reality. What makes it even more vivid was that it took place in my room, from my bed, and everything looked picture perfect to how it was in my room in reality, this is exactly the same as the nightmare I had last year (the one at the very beginning of this thread.) My room was picture perfect, I can not emphasise the vividness enough. Even the outside lighting conditions changed correctly with the proposed time in the dream.

And the dream begins, it’s 2am, I'm in bed, my mum calls up to me from downstairs that she’s off out and she’ll be back soon, then I hear the door go, and she’s gone. Obviously, for my mum to get up and go out at 2am without a given reason is weird, so I tried to get up to catch her up. When she said all this, I was sat up in my bed as I was just going to bed, I laid down when she left and contemplated catching her up, so I decided to get up. As soon as I tried to get up to catch up to my mum, I can’t. My body becomes paralysed and I can’t talk or see. This felt REAL. I thought it was actually happening (due to the similarity between this dream and the last nightmare), but I was still in the dream. So I try to call out for my mum, and all I could manage was a faint murmur, I manage to lunge myself up into a semi-sitting position, but still, I'm paralysed and can’t see. This is terrifying.

I wake up (properly) momentarily, and my bed is SOAKED with sweat, everything, my covers, my pillows, my sheets. I then fall back asleep and wake up again, but I wake up in the dream world (hence the confusion between what is real and what isn’t). It’s rolling on 4am, and my mum gets back, I am now able to move freely, and I am sat up. My mum comes up the stairs, and I ask her where she had been, but she didn’t answer me. She comes in my room and stands at the end of my bed, when she came into my room I laid down in my bed. She then starts going “Sean, come here Sean, come here, come on” in that sort of voice you would do when calling a dog or a small child to come to you. So I try to get up, bam, paralysed, can’t move, talk, or see. I try my hardest to get up and she’s still calling me. Bear in mind that each time this in-dream paralysis happened I was absolutely terrified as I thought this was happening for real. I try my hardest to get up, and I just can’t, although eventually I manage to lunge up into a semi-sitting position, like last time. I am eventually able to speak a little, in a sort of semi-murmur way. I try to say as loud as I can “Mum, I can’t see! I'm blind! Help me!” but it comes out sounding faint and un-urgent. She’s still calling, and I still think this is all actually happening.

Throughout the dream I had the intense feeling that my mum wasn’t actually my proper mum. Throughout I felt that she was someone else, a bad person, who was pretending to be my mum so they could harm me.

I wake up, but was able to distinguish reality from the dream as I left the dream in a semi-sitting position but woke up laid down on my front. I roll over, and sit up. It feels like I’ve had about 5 or 6 hours sleep, so I think it’s around 9am. I decide to get out of bed so I could write the events down, and as I get out of bed I contemplate staying awake instead of going back to bed. I sit on my PC chair for a bit, just trying to wake up. After ten minutes or so I actually look at the clock; it’s 5:15am. WTF. It’s confused me ever since as it felt I had been asleep for a lot longer, I couldn’t – and still cannot – work out how only an hour and forty five minutes had passed when it felt like six.

It’s still puzzling me. But yeah, sleep paralysis sucks both in reality and in the dream world. Looks like I'm spending another year sleeping with the hall light on, lol.

So yeah, any thoughts or ideas on this one?

[6strngs_2hmbkrs]

So yeah, any thoughts or ideas on this one?
you're possessed.

no, really though, that sounds scary as anything. I feel for you, but at the same time I wish I could have dreams that were more exciting like that. in the dream I had last night, all I remember is that I'm in a house full of a bunch of people, and I'm taking a shower, and 4 girls plot to come in and see me naked... I know 3 of them (though I can only remember who one of them was) and the 4th one is some tall-skinny-curly haired-brunette who I became extremely attracted to. She was the one who plotted the whole thing too. hmm...

[Akira]

you're possessed.

no, really though, that sounds scary as anything. I feel for you, but at the same time I wish I could have dreams that were more exciting like that. in the dream I had last night, all I remember is that I'm in a house full of a bunch of people, and I'm taking a shower, and 4 girls plot to come in and see me naked... I know 3 of them (though I can only remember who one of them was) and the 4th one is some tall-skinny-curly haired-brunette who I became extremely attracted to. She was the one who plotted the whole thing too. hmm...

6strngs getting some dream secks.

[PRSplaya]

I don't think I've ever been paralized in my dreams, but I have quite often not been able to move as fast or function as strong as I knew I could. I've also had dreams where I was only able to make faint sounds when trying to talk. Usually feels like it takes the breath away from me when trying to say something, when like that. I also have very vivid dreams, where all of my senses are very active. I've also had several reoccuring dreams throughout my life, but haven't had one in a pretty good while. Another thing that happens to me is, when I'm in that half asleep/half awake state, certain things, like sounds, are over exagerated, and tend to scare the crap out of me!

Dreams fascinate me, but they also scare me, and tend to freak me out sometimes.

[Akira]

I don't think I've ever been paralized in my dreams, but I have quite often not been able to move as fast or function as strong as I knew I could. I've also had dreams where I was only able to make faint sounds when trying to talk. Usually feels like it takes the breath away from me when trying to say something, when like that. I also have very vivid dreams, where all of my senses are very active. I've also had several reoccuring dreams throughout my life, but haven't had one in a pretty good while. Another thing that happens to me is, when I'm in that half asleep/half awake state, certain things, like sounds, are over exagerated, and tend to scare the crap out of me!

Dreams fascinate me, but they also scare me, and tend to freak me out sometimes.

I've had a few reoccuring dreams too, one of which was mentioned earlier on in this thread I think.

And I get the noises aswell! haha. There's a special name for them, i can't remember the name though, but I usually hear random voices and often mechnical noises, then sleep.

[PRSplaya]

I tend to hear what sounds like gunshots right outside my window, knocking on my door, heavy footsteps, people yelling, and things like that. It's usually always a percussive type sound, though.

I think I may try to start a dream diary. Do you try to right the dreams down as soon as you wake up from the dream, or do you wait until you're up for the day to right them down?

[Akira]

I tend to hear what sounds like gunshots right outside my window, knocking on my door, heavy footsteps, people yelling, and things like that. It's usually always a percussive type sound, though.

I think I may try to start a dream diary. Do you try to right the dreams down as soon as you wake up from the dream, or do you wait until you're up for the day to right them down?

It depends on what sort of dream it is. If it was really vivid then I try to write it down straight away, if it was a fairly vague dream, I usually wait for a few hours to see if anything comes back to my memory about the dream, then I write it down. Sometimes you'll find that you start remembering more of the dream as you write it down, and sometimes you'll go a whole day or two before writing it down, it just depends on how you feel I guess.

Sometimes I just go back to sleep though. :rolleyes:

I'd recommend doing it in a word document, it's a lot quicker to write them down (you'd be surprised how much you can end up writing down about a dream).

I find it good for trying to spot patterns aswell, so far I've found that a lot of my dreams involve something "bad" coming after me.

Don't be surprised if you go for a few weeks or a month with nothing to write down, and then have a vivid week of dreams, sometimes that happens to me.

[magicninja]

I have dreams about tornados alot. I did again last night. They always loom off in the distance and for some reason I need a closer look. Guess I like chasing tornados.

[ren]

I almost never dream (or never have any recollection). Whenever I do, it's almost always a variation on falling - usually in an elevator....

[Akira]

I almost never dream (or never have any recollection). Whenever I do, it's almost always a variation on falling - usually in an elevator....

Are you waking up after a dream and then going back to sleep? Doing that makes you forget the dream.

[Mark Pav]

Dreaming, remembering dreams, and even nightmares, can all be tied to nutrition--like pretty much everything. B vitamins, especially, are important for healthy sleep and dream recollection. Take them in the morning though. If you take them at night they can keep you awake.

[iiholly]

I either didn't sleep last night or I was dreaming of watching the alarm clock slip my few sleeping hours away.

That may explain my rapid indigestion of water at work today, just to make things more amusing. That I've spent a good deal of time (2 hours) *cough* not working.

[Akira]

I either didn't sleep last night or I was dreaming of watching the alarm clock slip my few sleeping hours away.

That may explain my rapid indigestion of water at work today, just to make things more amusing. That I've spent a good deal of time (2 hours) *cough* not working.

Tut tut.

Baby bunny.

So the other night magicninja was in my dream...

[magicninja]

Yesssss!!!!

I had a dream I played the drums. I dunno....don't look at me like that!