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MasterMinds
04-21-2005, 12:01 AM
Simple question that even I, a very seasoned theorist has not found solid information on.

What I need to know is simple - I need the names (not formulas or abbreviated names) for the NINTH, ELEVENTH, and THIRTEENTH chords occuring in the Diatonic Scale.

Don't post a link please - there isn't one. I just need to know there names. I've got most of the ninths, but don't know of any definitive name for the eleventh sand thirteenths occuring.

Should I simply make some names up!

Thanks.

MasterMinds
04-21-2005, 12:14 AM
Here's what I got from the NINTH so far - naming is sensical yet not researched

Major Ninth
Minor Ninth
Minor Seventh Flat Nine
Major Ninth
Major Dominant Ninth (or Dominant Ninth?)
Minor Ninth
Minor Seventh Flat 5 Flat 9 - or maybe Minor Flat 5 Flat 9

noticingthemistake
04-21-2005, 10:17 AM
All extension chords can be either major, minor, or dominant. If you know your theory: sevenths, ninths, elevenths, and thirteenths are all build on triads. So depending on the triad, you get the names either major ninth, or minor ninth. "b9" or "#11" means you alter that note in the harmony. Also, note that as you go up, all the previous extensions must be in the chord as well. So a major eleveenth must have each the 7th, 9th, and 11th also. Otherwise it is noted as a "add13" or "add6". 11th is written as "sus4" if the 7th and/or 9th is not apparant. An ninth chord without a 7th is reffered to as either "add9", "add2", or "sus2".

MasterMinds
04-21-2005, 12:51 PM
All extension chords can be either major, minor, or dominant. If you know your theory: sevenths, ninths, elevenths, and thirteenths are all build on triads. So depending on the triad, you get the names either major ninth, or minor ninth. "b9" or "#11" means you alter that note in the harmony. Also, note that as you go up, all the previous extensions must be in the chord as well. So a major eleveenth must have each the 7th, 9th, and 11th also. Otherwise it is noted as a "add13" or "add6". 11th is written as "sus4" if the 7th and/or 9th is not apparant. An ninth chord without a 7th is reffered to as either "add9", "add2", or "sus2".

Yes.

I will post my list of names that I have, and the formulas for reference. And see what I have. As you stated I simply took the triadic name, plus the dominant if necessary.

some of them are interestingly tricky names though like the minor flat ninth flat fifth - I will post later today.