delay for sweet child o mine

[fred1212]

does anyone know the delay settings for scom? and the other effects and amp settings. i can't seem to get it perfect. thanks guys.

[PRSplaya]

Sweet Child of Mine doesn't have any delay in it (maybe a little for the solo's, but that's it). Mainly it's just a little reverb and the wah on the main solo's. Unless you're tlaking about Welcome to the Jungle. It has a delay time around 180ish and the level is around 40%, but mostly it's how you play it that will make it or break it. Unfortunately I can't help you much there either.

[Dr_simon]

Im not a big G&R fan but I thought it was just an LP in the Neck pos played at around the 12 fret

[Polera]

No delay im sure...neck pick ups im fairly sure. This is what slash says via his website about his sig. amp...maybe a little different with the JCM 900...

" the dirty tone, the SLASH recommended settings are: Presence: 7, Bass: 7, Mid: 4.5, Treble: 7, Output Master: 6, Lead Master: 10, Input Gain: 6.5. The JCM SLASH Marshalls are used for a clean sound, too, when modified with KT88 output tubes. The SLASH Marshall should be tuned this way for the clean tone (SLASH recommendations): Presence: 0, Bass: 9, Mid: 3, Treble: 5 1/2, Output Master: 10, Lead Master: 0, Input Gain: 4."

That will give u a ruff idea. Hes uses reverb as well. i use to have the settings but lost em. The gear you use makes a big difference as well as your playing style.


Also remember to tune down a 1/2 step.

[fred1212]

yeah, i've got the song done, i just need to work out the effects and stuff. so do you think i should get a distortion pedal or a wah wah pedal and put the crappy distortion on my amp on?

[Polera]

Firstly what kind of amp are u using. For sweet child o mine, you might need a overdrive pedal in stead of distortion to simulate that tube sound. For wah wah i would get a vox...but i dont think theres extensive use of the wah in scom. Tell me what is your guitar/pickups/amp/effects currently.

[fred1212]

thanks man, uhh, i have a yamaha pacifica, not sure what the pickups are, i have a laney amp (but we're doing a performance so i shall be borrowing a 100 watt marshal amp) and i don't have any effects yet except for the little button on my amp that puts on the distortion. but i am getting a pedal tomorrow and i am tossing up between distortion and overdrive. any suggestions? thanks again.

[Polera]

Make sure you have at least humbuckers, espically neck. Thats the first thing i would do. More specifically Alnico 2 pro humbuckers from seymour duncan. If you borrowing a marshal amp, you should be able to dial in what you need in terms of overdrive. In terms of pedals if need be, i would suggest overdrive over distortion in this particular case. Overdrive gives a smooth break up that you hear from tube amps while distortion gives a dirty sound that you hear from solid state or bands like nirvana, heavy metal, grunge, sound garden etc.

Boss has a pedal that dials in both overdrive and distortion give that ago. I prefer boss' sound over digitech as digitech is more geared to metal heads in my opinion. As an overdrive pedal i like the ibanez tube screamer...one of the few ibanez products i like.

I love gnr, but i would dare try to play their music on single coils. Also i prefer tube sound for them, which your marshall might just have.

Try before you buy as well, that is much too important not to state.

Also remember to sound exactly close to slash is very hard, just try to get close, cuz there are too many variables.


Boss has something called a virtual pedal board that can help somewhat narrow done the tone you want at www.bossus.com

Digitech also has a interactive pedal menu and this is there overdrive pedal http://www.digitech.com/products/BadMonkey.htm , they also have a pedal http://www.digitech.com/products/tonedriver.htm and theres a distortion here http://www.digitech.com/products/hotrod.htm .

[fred1212]

thanks heaps for that, has really helped

[KiLaMiTe]

You will hear that the first few notes have a slight "clich" (that a word?) to them...you have to "pick" the strings, almost as if you are trying to get a pinched harmonic, but don't over do it. It just creates a warmer more alive tone than a duller note played on its own :)

Oh, and don't forget to play at the neck pickup (i.e. your picking the strings AT the neck, not above the treble pickup or middle of them both) :D

[Axl_Rose]

Theres a lot of 'pop' in the tone of sweet child, esp the intro, so for that I use my Jim Dunlop wah as a filter throughout the intro and fills.

I use a Gibson les paul Ltd Standard Manhattan, neck pickup, and pickup above the pickup.

I use a Marshall JCM2000 on OD2 channel, Bass 9, mid 3, treble 4, gain 10, presence 2, reverb 10.

That all makes it sound identical to the original recording!

Oh and theres wah throughout the WHOLE solo... even before the main wah section theres subtle rocks of the wah pedal.